Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Henry Yen writes: > Do you think your analysis will change now that AOL and Yahoo! are > now both part of Verizon? I really don't know. It depends on whether Verizon management is willing to leave well enough alone. Email abuse is a very hard problem, so if they try to make big changes, they'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-08 Thread John Levine
In article <20170608234027.gu8...@nntp.aegisinfosys.com> you write: >Do you think your analysis will change now that AOL and Yahoo! are >now both part of Verizon? Probably not. Verizon's folded their legacy mail system into AOL's. Maybe they'll merge the AOL and Yahoo mail systems, but I would be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-08 Thread Henry Yen
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 03:56:12AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If Yahoo! and > AOL come on board in a timely fashion, ARC will help a lot. My > expectation is that Yahoo! will be there, although their financial > situation exudes the stench of reorganization. AOL is more dubious. > Good i

[Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[My apologies, I drafted this a couple days ago, but never finished it.] Brett Delmage writes: > Will Mailman 2 or 3 be incorporating Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) > http://arc-spec.org/ ? We will be doing so in Mailman 3, probably by mid-July for the Gitlab trunk, and planned for releas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Joseph Brennan writes: > Wonderful, another offering of "This document is not an Internet > Standards Track specification; it is published for informational > purposes" adding further complexity to email in a mad attempt to make > up for the "potential" (?) problems that the previous "informat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Joseph Brennan wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Brett Delmage > wrote: >> Will Mailman 2 or 3 be incorporating Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) >> http://arc-spec.org/ ? > > > Wonderful, another offering of "This document is not an Internet > Standards

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-06-06 Thread Joseph Brennan
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Brett Delmage wrote: > Will Mailman 2 or 3 be incorporating Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) > http://arc-spec.org/ ? Wonderful, another offering of "This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes" a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-05-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 30, 2017, at 08:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Steve will probably have more to say on this, but we had a GSOC project last >year on this and there is a Mailman 3 branch at > that is a work in >progress on ARC. Steve did briefly mention at Pyc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-05-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/30/2017 07:34 PM, Brett Delmage wrote: > Will Mailman 2 or 3 be incorporating Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) > http://arc-spec.org/ ? Steve will probably have more to say on this, but we had a GSOC project last year on this and there is a Mailman 3 branch at

[Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-05-30 Thread Brett Delmage
Will Mailman 2 or 3 be incorporating Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) http://arc-spec.org/ ? I was unaware of this until today, when I saw ARC headers in my gmail test account when I was testing a Mailman server migration. "If you are a mailbox provider or intermediary (mailing list operato