Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/4/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This is really a question for Postfix resources. If Mailman says it > delivers to 577 recips, and you can only find 571 of them in Postfix's > logs, I think this has to be a Postfix issue. Or a problem with the tool you're using to look through the log files, o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/4/07, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And it should, but it seems that it may not be in this case, BUT are > you sure Postfix dropped these addresses. Maybe you just didn't see > them in the logs because you were looking for the lower-cased address > and what was logged was the mi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >I believe a pattern has emerged with the failure cases. > >I grep'ed for each of the 6 who failed in the output >from dumpdb for the list. > >~mailman/bin/dumpdb /var/lib/mailman/lists/mylist/config.pck | grep >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Each one of them had a mixed case letter in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >Oh dear, that could be difficult to "prove" to Postfix peoples. >Is there a way to get more verbose logging of what mailman >is delivering other than what the mail server reports? >That way I could compare the two and see >which is dropping the ball. Yes, and no. Go to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/4/07, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Instead of the above, do > > ~mailman/bin/list_members -r -n enabled mylistname | sort > /tmp/ott2 > > This will list only non-digest members with delivery enabled. > > Or perhaps this is not an issue. Is the number of lines in of /tmp/ott2 > eq

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

Hi, I believe a pattern has emerged with the failure cases. I grep'ed for each of the 6 who failed in the output from dumpdb for the list. ~mailman/bin/dumpdb /var/lib/mailman/lists/mylist/config.pck | grep [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each one of them had a mixed case letter in the username before the do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >Another list, with 577 subscribers was sent out today. I validated >the email addresses, removed one before subscribing with >an underscore in the domain name. This time there are 6 addresses >which do not appear in /var/log/maillog (did a log rotate >just prior to the send to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

Hello again, Another list, with 577 subscribers was sent out today. I validated the email addresses, removed one before subscribing with an underscore in the domain name. This time there are 6 addresses which do not appear in /var/log/maillog (did a log rotate just prior to the send to keep this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >Actually it was there. Sorry about that. I was looking at the wrong date >since I was analyzing this the next day... > >Apr 30 15:43:24 2007 (2110) < >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1890 >recips, completed in 2.463 seconds > >(domain obscured to protect the innocent) > >So it thou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/2/07, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is in the log message in Mailman's smtp log. E.g., something like > > May 01 22:43:36 2007 (1570) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > smtp for 198 recips, completed in 1.390 seconds > > In this case, Mailman attempted delivery to the MTA for Message-Id:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

Brad Knowles wrote: >On 5/2/07, D G Teed wrote: > >> I'm on 2.1.5. I have the patch to allow subscribers in one list >> to be added to posting ability in another list by simply adding >> the @listname to the allowed set. Hopefully that still works >> in 2.1.9. > >Ahh. Yeah, if at all possib

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/2/07, D G Teed wrote: > It seems like mailman is the most likely point of failure. There was a > python error in the error log file for mailman. Unless we are taking > about versions of python. I'm running 2.3.4 for that (Redhat EL 4). There are different versions of Python. More impo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >It seems like mailman is the most likely point of failure. There was a >python error >in the error log file for mailman. Unless we are taking about versions of >python. >I'm running 2.3.4 for that (Redhat EL 4). Have you seen my posts in this thread archived at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/2/07, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/2/07, D G Teed wrote: > > > I didn't trust that findsender.pl actually parses postfix logs 100% so > > I verified with plain grep for any mention of the user addresses in > > /var/log/maillog or > > /var/log/mailman/*I found one re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >Unless postfix has a bug where some emails are not being logged, there seems >to be a problem with mailman. I'm not looking for delivery - just any >reference >to the expected attempts to deliver. This is in the log message in Mailman's smtp log. E.g., something like May 01 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/2/07, D G Teed wrote: > I didn't trust that findsender.pl actually parses postfix logs 100% so > I verified with plain grep for any mention of the user addresses in > /var/log/maillog or > /var/log/mailman/*I found one reference of the 28 which > findsender.pl missed. > This list ha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

Hi, Thanks for the great replies and help. I found a perl script "findsender.pl" with google and it seems to be useful. I seem to have missing mail list members from my maillog, and one python error from mailman. Here is what I did to verify non-mailing... list_members maillist > /tmp/listnames

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

On 5/1/07, D G Teed wrote: > I've tried finding the message queue IDs which were used > and grep QueueID maillog | wc but this seems difficult > to do since some reappear again in the logs, which were initially > bounces. Mailman will give you the message-id, the list name, and the number of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

D G Teed wrote: > >Due to the previous problem with majordomo2 losing about 9% of >email (never sent to postfix, on same server) in the mail list, >we'd like to verify that the number of emails that were attempted to be >delivered equals the number from list_members command. Look at the entry in

[Mailman-Users] Counting messages that went to postfix queue

Hi, We're in the final tests of a pilot of mailman at our University. Due to the previous problem with majordomo2 losing about 9% of email (never sent to postfix, on same server) in the mail list, we'd like to verify that the number of emails that were attempted to be delivered equals the number