Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-31 Thread Manlio Perillo
Manlio Perillo ha scritto: > [...] > Mailman explicitly set the umask to 002 but postalias ignore it. > Moreover in the manual page it is stated that, without the -p option, > postalias should inherit file permission from the input file. > I was wrong, it only inherits read access permission. Ho

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-27 Thread Manlio Perillo
Manlio Perillo ha scritto: > Hi. > > I hit the problem described in the FAQ 6.9. > > However I don't want to > chmod 0666 data/aliases* > > A better solution, IMHO, is: > chmod 0660 data/aliases.db > chmod 0660 data/virtual-mailman.db > adduser www-data list > > I have done more investigatio

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Todd Zullinger ha scritto: > [...] But IIRC, the default MTA on Debian is Exim. So there are probably less users testing the postfix integration in the packages. That's my guess. >>> You are right, but, as an example, Postfix is used on: >>> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Todd Zullinger ha scritto: > [...] > I would wager that Steinmetz tried to follow the FAQ as written but > was thrown off by the fact that Debian doesn't use mailman as the > owner or group for the mailman files. And if you're not familiar with > how postfix works and runs the postalias command as

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Todd Zullinger wrote: > >The FAQ is (usually) self-service, meaning that anyone can edit it. >In this case, I think that a better solution exists on Sarge than the >one listed. Now that I finally (I think) have this straight in my mind, I think Todd's original suggested change for the FAQ is good

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manlio Perillo wrote: > Todd Zullinger ha scritto: > >> But IIRC, the default MTA on Debian is Exim. So there are probably >> less users testing the postfix integration in the packages. That's >> my guess. >> > > You are right, but, as an example,

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Sapiro wrote: > I don't understand the need for the 'adduser' you mentioned in your > first post. Perhaps you can clarify what the permissions, etc. are in > the Debian package as shipped, and what is required so we can get the > FAQ right. Is it

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Todd Zullinger ha scritto: > [...] >>> But I'm sure I'm not the only one to use Mailman on a Debian! >>> Nobody hits this problem? >>> All of them use newlist to create a new mailing list? > > I doubt you're the only one. ;-) > But IIRC, the default MTA on Debian is > Exim. So there are proba

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manlio Perillo wrote: > Todd Zullinger ha scritto: However I don't want to chmod 0666 data/aliases* >> >> Yuck. Nor would I. That shouldn't even be in the FAQ, AFAIAC. >> > > A mistake? It's one way to solve the problem. Just not

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Mark Sapiro ha scritto: > Manlio Perillo wrote: >> In Debian Sarge Apache2 runs under www-data user and group privileges >> (and so the CGI cgi-bin/create). >> >> This means that, in order for the script to modify the alias* files, >> www-data should be in the list group. >> Or, as written in the F

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Manlio Perillo wrote: > >In Debian Sarge Apache2 runs under www-data user and group privileges >(and so the CGI cgi-bin/create). > >This means that, in order for the script to modify the alias* files, >www-data should be in the list group. >Or, as written in the FAQ, these files have to be world wr

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Mark Sapiro ha scritto: > Manlio Perillo wrote: >> But if the files are not group writeable, how can the CGI script modify >> them? > > > Yes, they need to be group writable, but they shouldn't need to be > world writable. > Ok. I just notice that there exist a bug report: http://bugs.debian.or

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Manlio Perillo wrote: > >But if the files are not group writeable, how can the CGI script modify >them? Yes, they need to be group writable, but they shouldn't need to be world writable. The question is what should the FAQ say (moot at the moment, because the FAQ apparently can't be updated, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Todd Zullinger ha scritto: > Manlio Perillo wrote: >>> I hit the problem described in the FAQ 6.9. >>> >>> However I don't want to >>> chmod 0666 data/aliases* > > Yuck. Nor would I. That shouldn't even be in the FAQ, AFAIAC. > A mistake? >>> A better solution, IMHO, is: >>> chmod 0660 data/a

Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manlio Perillo wrote: > I hit the problem described in the FAQ 6.9. > > However I don't want to > chmod 0666 data/aliases* Yuck. Nor would I. That shouldn't even be in the FAQ, AFAIAC. > A better solution, IMHO, is: > chmod 0660 data/aliases.db >

[Mailman-Users] FAQ 6.9 on Debian Sarge

2006-03-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Hi. I hit the problem described in the FAQ 6.9. However I don't want to chmod 0666 data/aliases* A better solution, IMHO, is: chmod 0660 data/aliases.db chmod 0660 data/virtual-mailman.db adduser www-data list Regards Manlio Perillo --