Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-19 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 4/19/02 8:53 AM, "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Makes you kind of want to create a "Meta" admin page with some standard > setups like Announce-only list, etc. Or write up faqs/howtos on how to configure specific standard list styles? Maybe an operators manual of some sort? -- Ch

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-19 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JC" == Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JC> Makes you kind of want to create a "Meta" admin page with some JC> standard setups like Announce-only list, etc. What I have in mind for MM-after-2.1 is to allow the creation of "list styles" which can be easily applied to any par

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-19 Thread Jon Carnes
Makes you kind of want to create a "Meta" admin page with some standard setups like Announce-only list, etc. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.pytho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-19 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> On 4/8/02 9:59 AM, "Dave Sherohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CVR> wrote: >> OK, I'll give you that List-Post: isn't applicable to your >> list. CVR> And I believe in 2.1, mailman won't include headers that CVR>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:32:14PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: > if you and a couple of others have this great 'problem' with headers (which > are not normally seen unless you specifically ask for 'all headers' in your > mail client anyway [1]) Depends on the MUA. The great source of annoyance

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-10 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 14:32 +0100 4/9/02, robin szemeti wrote: >On Monday 08 April 2002 17:38, David wrote: >> just think that the way they say >> that leaving the headers in is following standards and that there is no >> option to remove them is absurd especially when that is not wht he >> standards say. > >'no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:38:23 -0700 (PDT) jebva wrote: > I just think that the way they say that leaving the headers in is > following standards and that there is no option to remove them is > absurd especially when that is not wht he standards say. RFC2369 states that they are optional. Stand

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 4/8/02 9:59 AM, "Dave Sherohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I'll give you that List-Post: isn't applicable to your list. And I believe in 2.1, mailman won't include headers that aren't relevant to a list, so an announce-only list won't get list-post. Barry? Is that true? I know we talke

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-08 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:24:56PM -0800, David wrote: > The debate goes on I know, but here is exactly why these excessive > headers suck. I want to set up a news list not a discussion list. The > only person who will be able to post is the list owner. I don't need > all the junk about ho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-08 Thread David
--- Chris Hedemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 01:24, David wrote: > > The debate goes on I know, but here is exactly why these > excessive > > headers suck. I want to set up a news list not a discussion list. > > [lots of whining deleted] > > Maybe you selected th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-08 Thread David
--- "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David wrote: > > > Why the folks who designed this > > are on such a power trip over something that damn near renders > their > > product useless is beyond me. > > I have tried the edits I have been given to nuke these absurd > > headers

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-07 Thread Chris Hedemark
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 01:24, David wrote: > The debate goes on I know, but here is exactly why these excessive > headers suck. I want to set up a news list not a discussion list. [lots of whining deleted] Maybe you selected the wrong tool for the job? MySQL, Postfix, Apache and a tiny bi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-07 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 4/7/02 5:30 PM, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you considered that perhaps Mailman is just not for you? Nope. Not relevant. Don't inject facts into a rant. -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.chuqui.com/ The first rule of holes: If you are in o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-07 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
David wrote: > Why the folks who designed this > are on such a power trip over something that damn near renders their > product useless is beyond me. > I have tried the edits I have been given to nuke these absurd > headers but so far none of them work. It would be of great benefit if > the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-07 Thread J C Lawrence
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 22:24:56 -0800 (PST) jebva wrote: > Why the folks who designed this are on such a power trip over > something that damn near renders their product useless is beyond me. Have you considered that perhaps Mailman is just not for you? -- J C Lawrence -

[Mailman-Users] Headers and why they suck

2002-04-06 Thread David
The debate goes on I know, but here is exactly why these excessive headers suck. I want to set up a news list not a discussion list. The only person who will be able to post is the list owner. I don't need all the junk about how to post to the list on top of each mail since it is WRONG for