Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2007-01-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: Now, how much you might want to take from this and incorporate into the pages at list.org/gnu.org, I would say that would be up to you. If there are any other changes you'd like made to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-18 Thread Carl Zwanzig
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Brad Knowles wrote: Well, I updated the listinfo page for mailman-users in three places. The first paragraph now reads: This mailing list is for users and other parties interested in the Mailman mailing list management system, as provided

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-18 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:38 AM -0800 12/18/06, Carl Zwanzig wrote: Brad- I like those descriptions, although I might further clarify that uesrs doesn't mean people sending mail through mailman, it means people installing/managing/troubleshooting mailman. Good point. I'll make that change. Also, could we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Todd Zullinger writes: I agree that if someone comes here with questions that are obviously very dependent on some customization that their vendor has made that they should be directed to check with the vendor. (Same goes for users who need more basic help learning to use their OS of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:46 PM -0500 12/15/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: There's two places where the mailing lists are described. One place is on the web pages at list.org (and mirrored at gnu.org), and one is within the Mailman listinfo description itself. Only Barry can change the description at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Todd Zullinger writes: Nothing wrong with that. It's why open source is so nice. I have the choice to find vendors and projects that share more of my values than others may. If FHS compliance is really important to you, you'll like the Red Hat mailman packages. The problem is that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-15 Thread Pierre Igot
On 06-12-14, at 22:40, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:59 PM -0400 12/13/06, Pierre Igot wrote: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=showfile=faq01.021.htp I am aware of this page and checked it before sending my request for help. The page didn't provide any information that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Todd Zullinger writes: Nothing wrong with that. It's why open source is so nice. I have the choice to find vendors and projects that share more of my values than others may. If FHS compliance is really important to you, you'll like the Red Hat mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:53 AM -0400 12/15/06, Pierre Igot wrote: IMPORTANT: Please note that the correct spelling for Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server is with a space between the Mac and the OS. Those of us who have a long history with Mac OS (like, back to the days of the single floppy disk Mac Plus) will tend

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:40 PM -0600 12/15/06, Brad Knowles wrote: That said, I will make an effort to find and correct all entries where this is misspelled. I probably wrote most of them, so I have the responsibility to make sure that they are correct. Found and corrected, in a surprising number of places.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 15, 2006, at 9:40 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: There's two places where the mailing lists are described. One place is on the web pages at list.org (and mirrored at gnu.org), and one is within the Mailman listinfo description itself. Only Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Terry Allen
Mark Sapiro wrote: Pierre Igot wrote: On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: Pierre Igot wrote: I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Pierre Igot
On 06-12-14, at 03:51, Mark Sapiro wrote: WRT to mailmanctl, apparently the Mailman qrunners were running at some time and then stopped. I don't know how they were started in the first place or why they stopped. Perhaps a reboot of the server would have started them again, perhaps not, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 14, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Terry Allen wrote: I sent some docs through to Barry Warsaw a long time back, but some oif the info contained in it are here: Hi Terry, would you consider fleshing out OS X support on the Mailman wiki? That's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Carl Zwanzig
[not speaking for Mark, Barry, or really anyone but me] This is really the classic IT problem of unsupported configurations. In a flurry of recycled electrons, Pierre Igot wrote: But the reality was that, in all likelihood, this was a pretty basic problem that had to do with Mailman itself,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Pierre Igot
On 06-12-14, at 13:18, Carl Zwanzig wrote: But the reality was that, in all likelihood, this was a pretty basic problem that had to do with Mailman itself, that it probably had nothing to do with Apple's customizations, and that the most efficient way to get help was probably to submit a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:03 PM -0400 12/14/06, Pierre Igot wrote: Believe it or not, I did check the FAQ before submitting my request. I do believe it. Try searching for all keywords message stuck qfiles/in or simply for qfiles in the FAQ, for example. It doesn't return anything that would have helped in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote: We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman operations and they haven't shared that with us. Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages. You can browse it here:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Todd Zullinger writes: Brad Knowles wrote: We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman operations and they haven't shared that with us. Apple does provide the source code for their mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:32 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages. You can browse it here: Even if they have made the source code available for everything they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their proprietary management

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pierre Igot wrote: Believe it or not, I did check the FAQ before submitting my request. Try searching for all keywords message stuck qfiles/in or simply for qfiles in the FAQ, for example. It doesn't return anything that would have helped in my case. I believe you did check the FAQ, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:59 PM -0400 12/13/06, Pierre Igot wrote: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp I am aware of this page and checked it before sending my request for help. The page didn't provide any information that addressed my issue, as far as I could tell. Okay, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote: Even if they have made the source code available for everything they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their proprietary management tools), this is not the same thing as contributing that code back to the Mailman project. But what value would MacOSX

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:20 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: But what value would MacOSX specific integrations be to the Mailman project? Well, if they fed their changes back to us, that would allow us to incorporate that into future versions of the software, which would then be trivially easy for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:20 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: But what value would MacOSX specific integrations be to the Mailman project? Well, if they fed their changes back to us, that would allow us to incorporate that into future versions of the software, which would then

[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messages stuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-13 Thread Pierre Igot
Hi, I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) I've just started experimenting with mailing lists on this server using Mailman. Things worked fine until I actually got to the stage

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pierre Igot wrote: I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp I've just started experimenting with mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-13 Thread Pierre Igot
On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: Pierre Igot wrote: I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pierre Igot wrote: On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: Pierre Igot wrote: I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: Pierre Igot wrote: On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: Pierre Igot wrote: I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) See

[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server

2004-07-07 Thread Steve Burling
This was posted on MacInTouch today; it might help the person who was having trouble with Mailman on Mac OS X... A new Apple KB article http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107906 offers a workaround for a repair permissions problem with mailing lists on Mac OS X Server (apparently