Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Just a few quick remarks: On 10/20/2016 02:10 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Note: this also assumes that one is following the point #3 under > "MAILING LISTS" advice on http://www.opendkim.org/opendkim-README > which says: >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/11/2016 09:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 10/11/2016 08:37 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >>> >>> The emails fail DMARC because the From: is the virtual list domain, >>> but the Sender is set to the site-list (often a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/11/2016 09:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/11/2016 08:37 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> The emails fail DMARC because the From: is the virtual list domain, >> but the Sender is set to the site-list (often a neutral domain used >> for the MTA that hosts the virtual lists). OpenDKIM signs

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/11/2016 08:37 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > The emails fail DMARC because the From: is the virtual list domain, > but the Sender is set to the site-list (often a neutral domain used > for the MTA that hosts the virtual lists). OpenDKIM signs based on > the Sender (see: "MAILING LISTS" at >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch writes: > > > I've noticed that Mailman "hold" notifications (to:list-owner@) > > fail DMARC (if the mailing list domain has a _dmarc RR) because of > > a simple code issue.

[Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim Popovitch writes: > I've noticed that Mailman "hold" notifications (to:list-owner@) > fail DMARC (if the mailing list domain has a _dmarc RR) because of > a simple code issue. (not calling it a bug at this point) I don't see how direct mail can fail DMARC if the list's host MTA is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> SO... I've digging further into Mailman code looking to further >> improve problems with DMARC. I've noticed that Mailman "hold" >> notifications

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > SO... I've digging further into Mailman code looking to further > improve problems with DMARC. I've noticed that Mailman "hold" > notifications (to:list-owner@) fail DMARC (if the mailing list domain > has a _dmarc RR)

[Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
SO... I've digging further into Mailman code looking to further improve problems with DMARC. I've noticed that Mailman "hold" notifications (to:list-owner@) fail DMARC (if the mailing list domain has a _dmarc RR) because of a simple code issue. (not calling it a bug at this point) In