Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-03-08 Thread Peter Shute
In case anyone's interested, I've "solved" this problem of Safari, etc, letting the cookie expire and logging out of the moderator page on the iPad by installing LastPass Tab. This is a password manager and, because of iOS restrictions that prevent an app from entering a password for another app

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 6 Feb 2014, at 11:03 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > > I use Firefox on an Android phone and it quite happily saves Mailman's > admin login passwords w/o a user field. No such thing for iOS, unfortunately, although I'm betting all the other browsers available for Android will save a mailman pas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/05/2014 03:57 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> On 6 Feb 2014, at 9:55 am, "Gary Algier" wrote: >> >> I use a password management plugin with Firefox (and IE8) and it does not >> handle the Mailman code well. I assumed it was because of the lack of a >> user >> field. I had the same problem whe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 6 Feb 2014, at 9:55 am, "Gary Algier" wrote: >>> Firefox offers to save the passwords to the same pages on a PC. I guess >>> that means it's totally an iOS problem. >> >> It's interesting though that none of the other iOS apps I've tried offer to >> save it either - Atomic Lite, Chrome, D

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Gary Algier
On 02/05/14 16:12, Peter Shute wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 5:22 am, "Peter Shute" wrote: My experience with Firefox mostly on various Linux, Mac and Windows platforms is that it does not always offer to save passwords, particularly those from financial institution websites, but it does always off

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
On 6 Feb 2014, at 5:22 am, "Peter Shute" wrote: >> My experience with Firefox mostly on various Linux, Mac and Windows >> platforms is that it does not always offer to save passwords, >> particularly those from financial institution websites, but it does >> always offer to save Mailman passwords.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 6 Feb 2014, at 1:45 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > >> On 02/04/2014 11:30 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> >> Can anyone tell me why the moderator page won't let me save the password in >> any of the iOS browser apps I've tried? None let me enter the URL and >> password myself, I have to wait for th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/04/2014 11:30 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > Can anyone tell me why the moderator page won't let me save the password in > any of the iOS browser apps I've tried? None let me enter the URL and > password myself, I have to wait for them to offer to save them, but none of > them offer for that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Shute
> On 5 Feb 2014, at 10:55 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > > And have you asked Apple about it? No, I wanted to eliminate the possibility that it's a mailman problem first. It's a pity I don't still have access to iOS6, so I could make sure it's an iOS7 problem. Another change that occurred around t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/4/14, 6:03 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > I agree that convenience is often at the expense of security, but I feel that > this is just a side efect of something they've done with multitasking. The > cookies are supposed to expire if I close the browser, but I haven't. I've > only swapped to anoth

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/04/2014 03:03 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > I agree that convenience is often at the expense of security, but I feel that > this is just a side efect of something they've done with multitasking. The > cookies are supposed to expire if I close the browser, but I haven't. I've > only swapped t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Shute
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't have access to do that, and I think it's probably > too > difficult for me anyway. I was hoping it was a > configuration option > that I could ask the administrator to > try. Maybe I'll just pray > that iOS 7.1 fixes it. > > Unlikely. This "feature" i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Shute
Duane Hill wrote: > >>> I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays > logged in for as long as I keep the browser open. But with > Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have to log in again when > I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried under > iOS. Can anyone tell me w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Duane Hill
Monday, February 3, 2014, 7:53:20 PM, Peter wrote: >> On 4 Feb 2014, at 12:26 pm, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: >> >>> On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >>> I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as >>> long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > I don't have access to do that, and I think it's probably too > difficult for me anyway. I was hoping it was a configuration option > that I could ask the administrator to try. Maybe I'll just pray > that iOS 7.1 fixes it. Unlikely. This "feature" is a *fix*. The probl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Peter Shute
> On 4 Feb 2014, at 1:27 pm, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > >> On 02/03/2014 05:53 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> >> That makes sense. Is there any way around it? Is it possible to make it use >> persistent cookies? > > > If you're willing to modify the code, see the MakeCookie function in > Mailman/Secur

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/03/2014 05:53 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > That makes sense. Is there any way around it? Is it possible to make it use > persistent cookies? If you're willing to modify the code, see the MakeCookie function in Mailman/SecurityManager.py. You could replace the comment # We use sess

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Peter Shute
> On 4 Feb 2014, at 12:26 pm, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > >> On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as >> long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often >> have to log in again when I return to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as long > as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have > to log in again when I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried > under iOS. Ca

[Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Peter Shute
I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have to log in again when I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried under iOS. Can anyone tell me why? Peter Shute