Hi everyone,
We have a mailman list running version 2.1.38.
https://homesteadfarm.org/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_homesteadfarm.org
The list has been in service for more than 20 years and we have 400+ people on
the list who live in our neighborhood.
Recently, Gmail is flagging list emails with
A subscriber to one of my lists who posts from gmail has been
made aware that some list subscribers do not get his postings
because of DKIM setup at gmail. See attached error message.
I understand that he can't do anything about the DKIM setup at
gmail.
Can I as list admin do something in the l
Joseph Brennan writes:
> I don't have a Mailman recommendation, but the situation is worth some
> comment:
>
> Notice Gmail "blocks" with a 4xx temp fail, for a message they will never
> accept. That's a protocol violation. It's abusive.
This is unclear, and I lean to saying Google's interpr
On 09/12/2018 09:33 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <5b99c857.19328.61f1d...@bernie.fantasyfarm.com> you write:
>> Well, something changed between Thursday and Friday, because posts to the
>> list
>> were fine and this one generated a bounce for every gmail member.
Has Gmail been bouncing a
In article <5b99c857.19328.61f1d...@bernie.fantasyfarm.com> you write:
>Well, something changed between Thursday and Friday, because posts to the list
>were fine and this one generated a bounce for every gmail member.
Any chance that the message in question had a From: address in a
domain that pu
On 13 Sep 2018 at 10:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Bernie Cosell writes:
>
> > I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new
> > policy [that was, apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The
> > bounces say:
>
> Can you provide more information about this, or are you ded
Bernie Cosell writes:
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new
> policy [that was, apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The
> bounces say:
Can you provide more information about this, or are you deducing a new
policy from the sudden spate of bounces? I ask because
I don't have a Mailman recommendation, but the situation is worth some
comment:
Notice Gmail "blocks" with a 4xx temp fail, for a message they will never
accept. That's a protocol violation. It's abusive.
I've been seeing the same temp fail abuse for some messages received from
Mailchimp and forw
At Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:04:58 -0400 "Bernie Cosell"
wrote:
>
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
> was,
> apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
>
> <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
>
On 09/11/2018 07:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>
> The one big downside of adding SPF, is that this cause problems if
> anyone sets up a forward for list messages to another domain, as these
> now will get rejected by any domain that checks SPF.
This can be at least partially mitigated by appendin
On 09/11/2018 07:04 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
> was,
> apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
>
> <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
> 421-4.7.0 This mess
On 9/11/18 10:04 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
> was,
> apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
>
> <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
> 421-4.7.0 This message
I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
was,
apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
<@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
421-4.7.0 This message does not have authentication information or fails to
On 02/17/2015 05:59 PM, Andrew Daviel wrote:
>
>
> I have a mailman list running on Linux CentOS 5 with sendmail 8.13.8.
> Generally, everything works (I believe/hope).
>
> Today I got a bounce action notification. When I looked at it,
> there's a regular DSN e.g.
>
> - The following addr
I have a mailman list running on Linux CentOS 5 with sendmail 8.13.8.
Generally, everything works (I believe/hope).
Today I got a bounce action notification. When I looked at it,
there's a regular DSN e.g.
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
(reason: 550 5.1
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Jim Popovitch writes:
>
> > TBH, I'm not sure what else there is to look for. :-) GMail, every so
> > often, is telling my Mailman that it needs to Auth in order to reflect
> > From:gmail to other gmail customers. It's like DMARC w
Jim Popovitch writes:
> TBH, I'm not sure what else there is to look for. :-) GMail, every so
> often, is telling my Mailman that it needs to Auth in order to reflect
> From:gmail to other gmail customers. It's like DMARC without
> following the DMARC standard (GMail has a p=none policy).
I
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:54 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257
>> > b6sm884241igm.2 - gsmtp (in reply to MAIL FROM
>> command))
>> >
>> > So for some period of time, the
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:54 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257
> > b6sm884241igm.2 - gsmtp (in reply to MAIL FROM
> command))
> >
> > So for some period of time, they wanted Mailman to auth as who? :-)
>
> OK, that wasn't an odd
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> On 04/24/2014 12:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>>> I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
>>> DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 04/24/2014 12:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>> I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
>> DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the weren't
>> publishing a DMARC record at all, although I migh
On 04/24/2014 12:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
> DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the weren't
> publishing a DMARC record at all, although I might be mistaken.
These results are from over a week ago. T
I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the weren't
publishing a DMARC record at all, although I might be mistaken.
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On 5/15/2013 10:45 AM, Dave Jones wrote, in part:
I am not sure the best place to solve this problem but I will start with
this list since the problem is impacting a heavy traffic mailman listserv.
Since Mark did not respond to this, I will. Mailman is not listserv.
"Listserv" is a registered
On 05/15/2013 08:45 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
>
> My question is can Mailman strip out the duplicate From: headers leaving
> the first one? I have searched for a Postfix solution with no luck. I
> guess I could work up a procmail solution for all inbound mail but really
> didn't want to add that lay
I am not sure the best place to solve this problem but I will start with
this list since the problem is impacting a heavy traffic mailman listserv.
Google recently started enforcing only a single From: header in RFC2822
causing bounces to members of a very heavy traffic list. A single person
with
Brad Knowles writes:
> I really don't think that this is a disk storage issue, I think
> this is much more likely to be a wrong-headed idea that this kind
> of thing will be beneficial to the users -- after all, they know
> that they sent the message and that copy is sitting in the outbox,
>
On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Well, unfortunately Gmail is closed-source and I don't know what the
> full algorithm is. Surely Message-Id is part of it, but evidently
> there are other aspects to it, or the behavior you and Brad
> R. describe wouldn't happen.
In the
Lucio Crusca writes:
> Again, that's not the point and we basically agree gmail is bad,
> but... a standard is some set of commonly accepted rules. Be it
> written down into a RFC or not.
It doesn't need to be in an RFC, but it must be written. "What is
commonly accepted" is simply not a stan
On Thursday 09 August 2012, Lucio Crusca wrote:
> I'd only like to slap gmail in the face if I could, by
> working around their wonderful feature, just for the taste of feeling
> smarter than they pretend to be. All in all, what is hacking about if
> not that?
Please do! Gmail user only because my
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> I don't think so. Perhaps "MUA" is the wrong term for a message store
> "in the cloud", but the fact is that Gmail is the final recipient as
> far as the RFCs are concerned. Eg, IMAP servers often implement SIEVE
> recipes and spam filtering, so some messages will be
Lucio Crusca writes:
> Actually I already suspected that no RFC said what a MUA should do with
> messages. However Gmail is accessible via POP/IMAP also. AFAICT the same
> messages are lost also when accessing gmail via POP/IMAP, and in that case
> GMail is not only a MUA and it does break
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:09:22 +0200
Lucio Crusca wrote:
Hello Lucio,
>Brad Rogers writes:
>> Send: smtp.foo.bar
>Does that mean that I must have an external (from my mailman server
>point of view) smtp server? That would explain everything, but that
I believe so, yes. I only run one list, and do
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> Lucio Crusca writes:
> > Feel free to try subscribing to the above list and try posting from
> > gmail.
>
> OK, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. I need to sleep after
> that last goal by Mexico. :-(
Probably you don't need to try anymore (see Brad Rogers'
Brad Rogers writes:
> Gmail has *always* been that way. There is a workaround. Maybe it is
> employed (if only by accident) on the lists you mention. It is required
> that the list be set up with the following;
>
> Receive: list.foo.bar
Ok, I think the example fits my case (3rd level domain is
Lucio Crusca writes:
> Feel free to try subscribing to the above list and try posting from
> gmail.
OK, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. I need to sleep after
that last goal by Mexico. :-(
> Like I said, I suspect it depends on the list. My current best guess is
> that older lists (
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:19:41 -
"Lucio Crusca" wrote:
Hello Lucio,
>Like I said, I suspect it depends on the list. My current best guess is
>that older lists (i.e. the ones that had been created before some time
>in the past) don't hit the infamous feature, while newer ones do.
Gmail has *alw
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
>
> Your fact is presumably due to some error in observation, since Gmail
> acknowledges this behavior as a feature of Gmail. It is simply not
> possible to receive your own posts on Gmail; you can only keep the
> Sent folder copy.
I can confirm my observation is corre
On 4/25/2011 8:29 AM, L. James Prevo wrote:
> Having a weird issue with my mailman list. I am using my gmail account as
> the list owner and moderator.
> When an email is sent to the list from someone else I get the email from the
> list just fine, the problem is when someone joins the list I am
Having a weird issue with my mailman list. I am using my gmail account as the
list owner and moderator.
When an email is sent to the list from someone else I get the email from the
list just fine, the problem is when someone joins the list I am not getting any
of the email notifications at all,
On Friday 12 June 2009 19:45:25 you wrote:
> Kālis Repsons wrote:
> > Hi,
> > maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as
> > non-spam? It just throws mail "confirm e8492f19d7c336341050..".
>
> Confirmations are sent with
>
> Precedence: bulk
>
> which may be part of th
Kārlis Repsons wrote:
> On Friday 12 June 2009 19:45:25 you wrote:
>>
>> The one thing that might be different is the server I sent this from has
>>
>> VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
> I set in that way, but still its in spam folder... Strange, how could your
> message get into the inbox, do we have dif
Kālis Repsons wrote:
> Hi,
> maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as
> non-spam? It just throws mail "confirm e8492f19d7c336341050..".
Confirmations are sent with
Precedence: bulk
which may be part of the problem, but I just tested a confirmation to a
gmail.com
Hi,
maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as
non-spam? It just throws mail "confirm e8492f19d7c336341050..".
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Brad Knowles wrote:
>Dario Ghilardi wrote:
>
>> I have problems with all gmail accounts (i tried with 2 different but i get
>> the same result).
>> I can subscribe to the list with a gmail account but i can't send emails to
>> that. I can receive others email, but others (and the mailing list too
Dario Ghilardi wrote:
Hi all,this is not the common question about gmail feature that doesn't
accept message back.
I'm glad to see that you've already gone through the FAQ and identified what
your problem is not. Knowing what the problem isn't is at least as
important as knowing what it is.
Hi all,this is not the common question about gmail feature that doesn't
accept message back.
I have problems with all gmail accounts (i tried with 2 different but i get
the same result).
I can subscribe to the list with a gmail account but i can't send emails to
that. I can receive others email, bu
o:
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail to hotmail problem
* Johnny Kosela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When i send a message from the gmail account to the list. Not every
time but a lot of the times the message does not show up at the
hotmail account. Sendin
* Johnny Kosela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When i send a message from the gmail account to the list. Not every
> time but a lot of the times the message does not show up at the
> hotmail account. Sending mail from and to the other accounts seems
> to work fine.
[...]
> Anyone have seen this probl
Using mailman version 2.1.9.cp2 i have a problem with hotmail user not
receiveing emails sent from a gmail account.
I am just testing the list right now and have only 5 members in the list. One
gmail, one hotmail and 3 others
And the list seems to work fine! Except
When i send a messag
Alan McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I wrote a letter to the gmail honchos about this, which I reproduce
>below. Of course I heard nothing. But maybe if 5 or 50 or 500 of
>us wrote similar messages, something might happen . . . ?
Or not. They's known about it for a while, and several hav
At 2:49 PM -0400 3/14/07, Paul Tomblin wrote:
>> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.042.htp
>
> That FAQ entry says absolutely nothing about the issue in question. GMail
> isn't rejecting the message thinking it's spam, they're discarding your
> copy of it. Other gm
Quoting Dragon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Paul Tomblin wrote:
> >Quoting Ryan Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >> any other folder. I went back to check the Exim log for failed or
> >> delayed deliveries, only to find nothing (well, for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> anyways :-)
> >
> >One of the "features" of g
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:56:41PM -0400, Ryan Steele wrote:
>
> Is it the case that since Mailman makes the posting look like it came
> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (i.e., it's claiming to be that user), and since
> one of the recipients is [EMAIL PROTECTED], that Google drops it at the
> gate and re
Alan McConnell wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:56:41PM -0400, Ryan Steele wrote:
>
>> Is it the case that since Mailman makes the posting look like it came
>> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (i.e., it's claiming to be that user), and since
>> one of the recipients is [EMAIL PROTECTED], that Google
Paul Tomblin wrote:
>Quoting Ryan Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I have a user, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who posts to a Mailman list hosted on
> > one of my servers. According to my Exim and Mailman logs, it is
> > received by the MTA, passed on to Mailman, posted successfully, and sent
> > back out to
Quoting Ryan Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I have a user, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who posts to a Mailman list hosted on
> one of my servers. According to my Exim and Mailman logs, it is
> received by the MTA, passed on to Mailman, posted successfully, and sent
> back out to all the recipients, inclu
I have what appears to be a case of GMail eating message posts... allow
me to explain.
I have a user, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who posts to a Mailman list hosted on
one of my servers. According to my Exim and Mailman logs, it is
received by the MTA, passed on to Mailman, posted successfully, and sen
Thanks...
I made too self-efforts about this problem before I registered this
group and asked my questions to you. These FAQs never answer my
questions exactly. However, it is not possible to search so long and
variable questions at Python's Mailman FAQ Wizard web pages.
I cancelled my group's al
At 5:04 PM +0300 10/3/06, Levent Elpen wrote:
> Fourth, Re-check membership list and I shocked: All digest options
> that I cancelled re-placed! The system automatically choose "digest"
> checkbox for only these three members (two, my gmail and yahoo
> addresses).
Weird. I'm just taking a sh
Too many thanks to Mark and Brad.
This is very interesting problem according to me.
I have done as follows:
First, I went to auto-responder and reduced to
autoresponse_graceperiod from 90 to 0.
Then, I received a digest message both my gmail and my yahoo address
in question in "[mylist [EMAIL P
Brad Knowles wrote:
>At 10:22 PM +0300 10/2/06, Levent Elpen wrote:
>
>> I have a problem recently (I have not, before). I have two mailman
>> lists on my server and cpanel.
>
>Please see FAQ 6.11.
>
>> One runs properly and send mail to all
>> server types inclu
At 10:22 PM +0300 10/2/06, Levent Elpen wrote:
> I have a problem recently (I have not, before). I have two mailman
> lists on my server and cpanel.
Please see FAQ 6.11.
> One runs properly and send mail to all
> server types include gmail and yahoo. Other, run
Hi,
I have a problem recently (I have not, before). I have two mailman
lists on my server and cpanel. One runs properly and send mail to all
server types include gmail and yahoo. Other, runs properly, too, but
does not send specially my yahoo and gmail adresses. This list's admin
address is my gmai
At 10:26 AM -0700 2005-09-09, scot condry wrote:
> Sorry if this is a repeat I havent been able to find a definitive answer on
> this through Google so I just joined this list. Does Mailman have issues
> with GMAIL?
Not per se, no. But Gmail is large enough that when they have
probl
Sorry if this is a repeat I havent been able to find a definitive answer on
this through Google so I just joined this list. Does Mailman have issues
with GMAIL? I am hosting two lists and when I send an email to the list
from GMAIL it makes it to the archives on the list's web interface but ne
I should re-emphasize that the magically blessed mailman list that
gets through my/gmail's duplicate detector is THIS LIST
(mailman-users@python.org). Or at least it did until I switched to
digest mode.
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Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> I wonder if maybe Topica changes the content of the Message-ID:
>header. Most mailing list software goes to great lengths to try to
>avoid changing this header, because this is supposed to be the
>globally unique id by which this particular message is known.
>Acco
At 11:46 AM -0600 2005-02-17, Stephanie wrote:
Maybe that third list where you do get copies back does something like
Topica, something that keeps GMail from seeing it as a duplicate.
I wonder if maybe Topica changes the content of the Message-ID:
header. Most mailing list software goes to gre
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:16:17 -0500, David Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my gmail account I have three subscriptions to mailman lists, all
> on different servers, and on two of them I don't recieve copies of my
> own posts, even though I've set the relevant option to yes:
It's likely nothin
gmail is and has been having serious delivery delay issues off and on since
it went open/public beta. the problems continue although they are less and
farther in betweenlast few days have been bad again.
--On Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:16 -0500 David Morse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
O
On my gmail account I have three subscriptions to mailman lists, all
on different servers, and on two of them I don't recieve copies of my
own posts, even though I've set the relevant option to yes:
] Receive your own posts to the list?
] Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post t
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