Re: [mailop] Blog: Logjam, Openssl and Email Deliverability

2015-06-24 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2015-06-24 at 14:06 -0700, Carl Byington wrote: > Does Exim (immediately or delayed) retry that connection and > (temporarily or permanently) ignore the offer of STARTTLS? Depends upon the configuration. Assuming defaults, "yes". http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-enc

Re: [mailop] Delivery to A record if MX exists ?

2015-06-24 Thread SM
Hi Kurt, At 01:16 17-06-2015, Kurt Jaeger wrote: 5.1. Locating the Target Host can be read that MX records have preference, but it explizitly avoids mentioning "A or " records if no MX is found. The sentence: [...] If an empty list of MXs is returned, the address is treated as if it w

Re: [mailop] Blog: Logjam, Openssl and Email Deliverability

2015-06-24 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 00:09 +0100, Brandon Long wrote: > Not in front of a computer to check if we see failures like this, but > we (google) stopped falling back to unencrypted connections >2y ago. > This had an impact on a small number of misconfigur

Re: [mailop] Blog: Logjam, Openssl and Email Deliverability

2015-06-24 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 20:16 +, Phil Pennock wrote: > A key issue though is that by default, Exim will fall back to > unencrypted because encryption to MX is opportunistic. Sendmail as a client sends EHLO, receives an offer of STARTTLS, sends START

Re: [mailop] Blog: Logjam, Openssl and Email Deliverability

2015-06-24 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 12:27 -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > Is there a public list of such weak domains/MXes? Well, I have a few from grepping my logs: mail.ritz.edu hawk.dcu.ie inbound30.exchangedefender.com smtp.raymondcorp.com smtp1.raymondcorp.com smt