On 2017-02-15 at 22:40 -, John Levine wrote:
> I like DO for web hosting and their provisioning is great, but I
> wouldn't try to send mail from DO.
DO block port 25 outbound on IPv6. So I wouldn't, either.
(I was going to put a monitoring box on a new DO VPS, away from my
regular colo, but
Without specifics (domains, IPs, the sessionid you 'd out), I'm not
able to help.
Brandon
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Aleksandr Miroslav
wrote:
> So I have a bunch of domains (about 20) that I use for mail. I run my own
> mail server, and keep the OS and the MTA software up to date. Al
>One thing I'm wondering: If deliverability with Hetzner is already bad is
>there any chance to deliver anything at all from a OVH/DigitalOcean/AWS ip?
>(just to get a sense of how problematic Hetzner is)
OVH used to be hopeless but after some firm whacks they have started
to clean up, and their d
So I have a bunch of domains (about 20) that I use for mail. I run my own
mail server, and keep the OS and the MTA software up to date. All of my
domains have SPF and DKIM setup properly.
None of my domains send spam. Most of my domains are used for small mailing
lists of various sorts. I host thr
The test was for the rbl DSN rfc clueless, they were attempting to test
whether we accepted mail with an empty mail from, ie bounces, which of
course we do... but their test is clueless.
Brandon
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:11 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:59:36 +, Phil Pennock said:
>
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:59:36 +, Phil Pennock said:
> I believe Brandon's point is that this is a probe _of_ Gmail, not _by_
> Gmail, and the service purporting to be testing RFC conformance is
> instead doing a very old-style message with no headers at all.
Right. The test sends something th
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:46 PM, G. Miliotis wrote:
> On 15/2/2017 19:06, Al Iverson wrote:
>>
>> Yes, that is what most of us who are paid to send email do. Email
>> Service Providers (ESPs) help their clients monitor this sort of
>> thing, by signing up for SNDS, using seedlist testing from com
On 15/2/2017 19:06, Al Iverson wrote:
Yes, that is what most of us who are paid to send email do. Email
Service Providers (ESPs) help their clients monitor this sort of
thing, by signing up for SNDS, using seedlist testing from companies
like Return Path and 250OK, monitor for blacklistings, and
On 15/2/2017 18:46, Laura Atkins wrote:
The statement I was replying to said MS should announce what they’re
blocking. I pointed out that MS does provide that information to the
appropriate parties. The sign up process is about ownership and
confirming that the person asking for the data has
On 17-02-15 08:45 AM, Felix Schwarz via mailop wrote:
Am 15.02.2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins:
If Hertzner cared they could sign up for the MS SNDS program and see a list of
all the IPs that were currently blocked.
They do that already (as Hetzner customers can see when registering a Hetz
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
>> If Hertzner cared they could sign up for the MS SNDS program and see a list
>> of all the IPs that were currently blocked.
>
> So you want them to sign up for every existing mail provider to check
> regularly if they might have been blocke
Hi!
> There's what, 3 major providers? Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo.
>
> That's not a lot to sign up for.
baidu, web.de, gmx.de, t-online.de, the french players,
.
There's a lot out there...
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> On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
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> Am Mi den 15. Feb 2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins:
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>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 6:51 AM, G. Miliotis wrote:
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>>> On 15/2/2017 16:12, David Schweikert wrote:
In other words: i
Am 15.02.2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins:
> If Hertzner cared they could sign up for the MS SNDS program and see a list of
> all the IPs that were currently blocked.
They do that already (as Hetzner customers can see when registering a Hetzner
IP in SNDS). AFAIK they also monitor IP blacklist
There's what, 3 major providers? Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo.
That's not a lot to sign up for.
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Am Mi den 15. Feb 2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins:
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> > On Feb 15, 2017, at 6:51 AM, G. Miliotis wrote:
> >
> > On 15/2/2017 16:12, David Schweikert wrote:
> >> In other words: if Hetzner doesn't behave well according to accepted
> >> common r
> On Feb 15, 2017, at 6:51 AM, G. Miliotis wrote:
>
> On 15/2/2017 16:12, David Schweikert wrote:
>> In other words: if Hetzner doesn't behave well according to accepted
>> common rules, they should be publicly marked as such, so that it becomes
>> a problem between Hetzner and Microsoft
>
> MS
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 05:59:36AM +, Phil Pennock wrote:
> On 2017-02-15 at 00:24 -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> > So your post un-wordraps into:
>
> > DATA
> > 354 Go ahead d7si5125389wjc.145 - gsmtp
> > Testing. .
> > 550-5.7.1 [2001:4830:11aa:106:c23f:d5ff:fe67:5ce1 11] Our system
On 15/2/2017 16:12, David Schweikert wrote:
In other words: if Hetzner doesn't behave well according to accepted
common rules, they should be publicly marked as such, so that it becomes
a problem between Hetzner and Microsoft
MS doesn't care about hetzner's customers and vice versa.
Now if MS
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 00:00:51 +, Phil Pennock wrote:
> > I'm not sure if I'm special if I would like my mails to get delivered
> > when my server is not doing anything wrong?
>
> Rent on a storefront in a well-policed clean part of town is higher than
> rent on a back-alley where the street
I have not heard back from a human there, but I tried a contact we had with
their associated domain @it.telecomitalia.it. He, unfortunately has left
and said he had forwarded the message to "other people"
*Kind regards*
*Lindani Tshabangu*
Deliverability EMEA
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