Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Chris
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:29:29 + Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Anything more than 5% bad recipients in mail sent by a given IP > address will land you in hot water with ... certain ISPs.  Good idea. Maybe I should collect them. But as John wrote, they're probably already on the black lists.

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Benjamin BILLON
> Yes, inbound. I'm wondering why there are so many mails to not-existing > recipients. ... > Anything more than 5% bad recipients in mail sent by a given IP address will > land you in hot water with ... certain ISPs.  Here's the explanation I give when I have to explain why high hard bounce

Re: [mailop] Trulia / Zillow contact

2018-02-02 Thread Benjamin BILLON
@Jaren, what action do you expect an ESP to take when their domain is being abused? -- Benjamin From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Will Boyd via mailop Sent: Saturday, 3 February, 2018 05:33 To: Jaren Angerbauer Cc: mailop

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
For, “smaller players” the best way is to submit the traffic thru SpamCop. We get a feed from them, and it’s one more drop in the bucket … but the buckets are looked at by a human. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 05:20:14PM -0500, John Levine wrote: > In the past few days I've seen a lot of spam from gmail, sleazy SEO > and the like. Has someone cracked their signup system? About 20% of the UCE and spam that reaches my customers' INBOXES is from outlook.com or gmail.com.

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 18-02-02 02:20 PM, John Levine wrote: In the past few days I've seen a lot of spam from gmail, sleazy SEO and the like. Has someone cracked their signup system? Our filtering team always seems to be chasing those SEO ones down.. Been a problem for months now.. Our personal belief is that

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread Brett Schenker
I've been getting that for quite some time too. At least three months. It seems to have ramped up in the last three weeks. Brett On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > It's been about a month for me, but my GSuite account has been > hammered

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop > wrote: > > It's been about a month for me, but my GSuite account has been hammered from > other GSuite or Gmail accounts and it's all a mix of SEO spam and "Hire us > for your business website" junk. Most of it

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop
It's been about a month for me, but my GSuite account has been hammered from other GSuite or Gmail accounts and it's all a mix of SEO spam and "Hire us for your business website" junk. Most of it gets filtered, but a few per day get into my inbox. -A On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 2:22 PM John Levine

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread John Levine
In article <20180202172637.30063632@cd>, Chris wrote: >I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the rejected >mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. 22 % because >of DNSBL. > >Is this ratio normal? As others have said, in the world of

Re: [mailop] Heads Up

2018-02-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 11:14 +1100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: One can only conclude, they either have a leak in their API, or they altered the permissions to give out emails when specifically denied, or they got hacked and didn't disclose it. They had bug for

[mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

2018-02-02 Thread John Levine
In the past few days I've seen a lot of spam from gmail, sleazy SEO and the like. Has someone cracked their signup system? ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Heads Up

2018-02-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Charles McKean wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 11:14 +1100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: One can only conclude, they either have a leak in their API, or they altered the permissions to give out emails when

Re: [mailop] Trulia / Zillow contact

2018-02-02 Thread Will Boyd via mailop
I just came to the same conclusion as Steve. I don't work with that mailstream or domain, but I do work a bit with some folks at Zillow. I'm responding offline to Jaren. Will On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > > > On Feb 2, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Jaren

Re: [mailop] Trulia / Zillow contact

2018-02-02 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Jaren Angerbauer > wrote: > > Hi, > > Looking for a contact Zillow, or even possibly their ESP. That'd be mailgun, for this domain anyway, for anyone following along at home. > We are seeing one of their domains

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Michael Peddemors
Speaking of which.. (can you tell it is Friday, everyone has time to be helpful)... Our Spam Auditors noticed a fairly new 'email verification' network, at least the IP range.. majority of the 31.129.32.0 - 31.129.63.255 network used, and triggering various rate limiters.. Coming out of the

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Anything more than 5% bad recipients in mail sent by a given IP address will land you in hot water with ... certain ISPs.  Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting

[mailop] Trulia / Zillow contact

2018-02-02 Thread Jaren Angerbauer
Hi, Looking for a contact Zillow, or even possibly their ESP. We are seeing one of their domains (email.zillow-mail.com) being abused by affiliate spammers. Thanks, --Jaren ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Chris
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:50:01 -0800 Michael Peddemors wrote: > Invalid users should be less than 10% typically, if good bot net > protection in place before the RCPT TO stage.. Recipient verification is one of the first tests. Maybe I should enable postscreen. Is this sufficient for bots? > And

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Chris
On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 16:52:16 + Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: > On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 17:26 +0100, Chris wrote: > > I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the > > rejected mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. > > 22 % because of DNSBL. > > > > Is

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread ComKal Networks
> I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the rejected > mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. 22 % because > of DNSBL. > Is this ratio normal? There abouts, email is free, for a certain class, so adding a lot of names to the left of the @ is very old school

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 17:26 +0100, Chris wrote: > I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the rejected > mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. 22 % because > of DNSBL. > > Is this ratio normal? Assuming you're talking about inbound emails and wondering why

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Michael Peddemors
That is REALLY hard to gauge.. While lots of rejected email addresses is expected behavior.. * Spammers using old lists * Dictionary Attacks * Email Address verification Systems It REALLY depends how your system is configured, what RBL's you are using, what is the email platform, do you

[mailop] Invalid address ratio?

2018-02-02 Thread Chris
All, I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the rejected mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. 22 % because of DNSBL. Is this ratio normal? Thank you in advance. - Chris ___ mailop mailing list