Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-20 Thread Sébastien Riccio
Hi, Another "funny" thing that I don't understand how junk mail are processed. Just a little test I've done: I freshly open a new gmail account and send a spam (took some spam example we receive and pasted it into the mail) to my outlook.com mailbox from it. Resuit: I receive it in outlook INBOX

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-20 Thread Sébastien Riccio
Hello, > you are forgetting that users are stupid. As I've mentioned before I have to > deal with abuse messages daily because > users press "Junk" > instead of "Delete" buttons. They don't understand the difference between > "Junk" and "Trash" or they sort a regular mail response to junk becaus

Re: [mailop] Our customers e-mail constantly going to outlook.com junkmail (any Microsoft people around?)

2019-04-20 Thread Sébastien Riccio
Hello and thank you. You’ve explained way better that me what we’re facing and what made me post the original message. Reagrds, Sébastien RICCIO SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR P +41 840 888 888 F +41 840 888 000 M sric...@swisscenter.com From: mailop On Behalf Of Chris

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-20 Thread Mark Lunn
I managed to hit ‘spam’, on our own mail in error on yahoo. It’s easily done. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Apr 2019, at 18:57, Jay Hennigan wrote: > >> On 4/20/19 4:01 AM, Thomas Walter wrote: >> >> you are forgetting that users are stupid. As I've mentioned before I >> have to deal with abuse

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:31, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: I just don't think this is practical. It could be, were it not for the tragic conceptual cancer of "email is free like beer." For one, when you're only solution is to reject, the only way to get a signal that you're rejecting the mai

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-20 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 4/20/19 4:01 AM, Thomas Walter wrote: you are forgetting that users are stupid. As I've mentioned before I have to deal with abuse messages daily because users press "Junk" instead of "Delete" buttons. They don't understand the difference between "Junk" and "Trash" or they sort a regular mail

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-20 Thread Thomas Walter
Hey Brandon, On 19.04.19 23:31, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > For one, when you're only solution is to reject, the only way to get a > signal that you're rejecting the mail wrong is manual review, which is > impractical at best, and difficult to correlate with the opinion of the > actual receiv

Re: [mailop] List-Unsubscribe Question

2019-04-20 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
I agree that forwarding and distribution lists are the most likely reasons. Another common possibility is what exim calls local_part_prefix and local_part_suffix, often adding a "+" and a tag to the local part of the address, but I imagine that your operators would recognise those. I personal