Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
No comments from this side, obviously... except that everything old is new again: https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+campaign+email+gmail+spam Also, doesn't CAN-SPAM only apply to senders? Brandon (not speaking on behalf of Google) On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 11:19 AM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 7/26/19 13:38, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote: They've always been a bit cagey when I asked but from what I've been told it's opted-in individuals and data comes directly from email providers they have agreements with. While it's not perfect, it does seem to do a decent job of telling trend

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Brett Schenker via mailop
They've always been a bit cagey when I asked but from what I've been told it's opted-in individuals and data comes directly from email providers they have agreements with. While it's not perfect, it does seem to do a decent job of telling trends. In this case, I'd read it as "they don't have a prob

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Daniele Nicolodi via mailop
On 26-07-2019 13:21, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote: > It's been 98.4% inbox placement according to ReturnPath PartnerApp since > March... so... yeah... How does ReturnPath obtain those numbers? At a quick glance I didn't find a technical explanation on their website. Thank you. Cheers, Dan __

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 7/26/19 11:34, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: And since, as I gather, her political speech emails are not coming from a .GOV address, this could get complicated. I think that's going to be a non-issue. Political speech of anyone running for but not in office won't come from a .gov address.

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Brett Schenker via mailop
It's been 98.4% inbox placement according to ReturnPath PartnerApp since March... so... yeah... On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:12 PM Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: > IANAL, but I would also assume that it would have to be a remarkably > higher rate of SPAM classification to show as intentful. 5% more

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Mike Hammett via mailop
IANAL, but I would also assume that it would have to be a remarkably higher rate of SPAM classification to show as intentful. 5% more than anyone else doesn't really mean anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - O

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Brett Schenker via mailop
I first have to say Gabbard is a client so what I can say is limited but... Using pretty available info from ReturnPath (that anyone that pays can get), I have no idea where they're getting the idea they're having deliverability issues. Knowing the bigger space,and the stats to go with it, to say

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Thanks Ann for sharing, And you are right, this "could" be opening a scary can of worms for 'anyone' who is or has control or influence on delivering messages of any type, (eg Twitter, Spam Filtering companies, etc). During the last election this was a concern, Democrats complaining Republic

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
And since, as I gather, her political speech emails are not coming from a .GOV address, this could get complicated. I do wonder whom else will be made a party to such a lawsuit in short order. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been P

[mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-26 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop
While at first blush the big news about this lawsuit is that Google is being sued for suppressing presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard's campaign's ads, there is also a piece of the lawsuit where they are suing Google because (they claim) a disproportionate number of her campaign's email was bei

Re: [mailop] Microsoft blocking emails

2019-07-26 Thread Support 3Hound via mailop
Hi Michael, in past experiences I saw a lot of time similar messages even on new IP address just installed. I don't know exactly the meaning of S3150 but the message generally means that the IP has been temporary blocked (you can check it on SNDS on IP status section). It should happens when th