> Yep, I know you, Sendgrid, told me that you'd be working on it with > Zoom. And, as expected, nothing ever happened and they still keep > coming.
About 0.3% of the spams that Koli-Lõks spamtraps got from SendGrid in December 2021 matched .zoom.us. It's large enough to be noticeable, but nothing compared to the largest single SendGrid customer in the same traps - a Taiwanese newspaper whose emissions amounted to more than 10% of the SendGrid total over the same time range. The Zoom stuff is hitting both typo addresses as well as recycled ones. > Because, lets be honest here, based on what others are reporting, it > looks like that I'd have an easier time trying to broker world peace > AND cure cancer than it would be to get you guys to deal with abuse > from your network. In our traps, SendGrid continues to be #1 of the ESPs, but only by a smallish margin against #2, Salesforce Marketing Cloud. Mailchimp, at #3, is way below. Our data comes from a relatively small data set of about two thousand domain names receiving mail, but even so, it's large enough to get *something* from more than 250 ESPs every month, and that's just the ones we've managed to identify so far. > But, frankly, if you (Sendgrid) or them (Zoom) ain't going to do > jack shit, then don't fucking tell me you are "working on it". The basic problem is allowing an ESP customer to import a list that existed before the customer became a customer of this ESP. I can't think of an ESP that would not allow that. Another basic problem is allowing the addition of new addresses without COI. I can't think of an ESP that would require strict COI. I'd be happy to be set straight on both counts. -- Atro Tossavainen, Founder, Partner Koli-Lõks OÜ (reg. no. 12815457, VAT ID EE101811635) Tallinn, Estonia tel. +372-5883-4269, http://www.koliloks.eu/ _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
