Re: [mailop] Intuit directly spaming

2023-03-05 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 21:48:46 +, Slavko via mailop wrote: >This looks very nice, i installed and tried it, but i got no output, >after quick check it uses by default whois.pwhois.org, which >returns NXDOMAIN. Please, which whois server are you using? I appear to be using the default. From

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Atro Tossavainen via mailop said: >In February we had close to 6000 separate domains sending from >AWS SES to our spamtraps. I believe it, but the more relevant question is what fraction that is of the total mail they send. I see way more real mail than spam from them. They're

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread Mark Fletcher via mailop
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:15 PM John R Levine wrote: > > If you need a big VM there's always AWS. They do a surprisingly good job > of managing outbound mail. You get 62K messages/mo for free, then 10c per > 1000 messages sent from a VM. > For the amount of email we send, that cost structure

Re: [mailop] Intuit directly spaming

2023-03-05 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 5. marca 2023 21:12:22 UTC používateľ Michael Rathbun via mailop napísal: >Then there's stuff like > >>mdr@LUSZ ~ $ whob 167.89.99.112 >>IP: 167.89.99.112 >>Origin-AS: 11377 >>Prefix: 167.89.96.0/20 This looks very nice, i installed and tried it, but i got no output, after quick check it

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> You have to validate each domain you use for sending, which is a > modest pain, but that's one of the reasons their mail stream is > pretty clean. Do you mean AWS SES specifically? They're consistently #4 by volume in our dataset (occasionally even #3, rarely #5), next only to SendGrid,

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread John R Levine via mailop
It also occurs to me that you don't need to do your computing and mail on the same VM. Mail is rather lightweight so you could run a mail server at Tektonic, and send messages from other places via port 587 submission. On Sun, 5 Mar 2023, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 10:20 AM

Re: [mailop] Intuit directly spaming

2023-03-05 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 22:58:23 +, MRob via mailop wrote: >Thanks you Atro, is there popular tool for to do that in real time? This works for me: >mdr@LUSZ ~ $ whois AS11377 >% IANA WHOIS server >% for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org >% This query returned 1 object >

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread John R Levine via mailop
Thanks for the recommendation; unfortunately they wouldn't work for us. Their largest VM is less than half the size we would need for our databases, also they don't appear to have an API to provision new VMs. If you need a big VM there's always AWS. They do a surprisingly good job of

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread Mark Fletcher via mailop
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 10:20 AM John R Levine wrote: > > I've been happy with a small provider called Tektonic. If you've never > heard of them, that's a good sign. > > Thanks for the recommendation; unfortunately they wouldn't work for us. Their largest VM is less than half the size we would

Re: [mailop] h-email.net

2023-03-05 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 5.03.2023 o godz. 20:58:22 Benny Pedersen via mailop pisze: > Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop skrev den 2023-03-05 20:45: > >It's obvious to check MX for *recipient* domain, but not > >for sender... > > reject_mumble_sender is very hard ?, you have it as recipient, hmmp :) > > tip dont accept

Re: [mailop] h-email.net

2023-03-05 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop skrev den 2023-03-05 20:45: It's obvious to check MX for *recipient* domain, but not for sender... reject_mumble_sender is very hard ?, you have it as recipient, hmmp :) tip dont accept mail for unknown domains, rfc 7505 does create this, but keeps domain valid for

Re: [mailop] h-email.net

2023-03-05 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 5.03.2023 o godz. 04:50:34 Benny Pedersen via mailop pisze: > Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop skrev den 2023-03-04 20:00: > >Dnia 3.03.2023 o godz. 22:21:28 John Levine via mailop pisze: > >Why isn't it just "v=spf1 -all" then? That's the most common way of > >indicating that a domain should never

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread John R Levine via mailop
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023, Mark Fletcher wrote: Best I can tell, in our 9+ years, being hosted by Linode has never been an issue wrt deliverability, and as a hosting provider, they've been nothing but responsive and reliable. That said, they were recently bought by Akamai, and have just raised prices.

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-03-05 at 11:47:07 UTC-0500 (5 Mar 2023 11:47:07 -0500) John Levine via mailop is rumored to have said: I wouldn't try to send mail from Linode if I cared about it being delivered. Indeed. Linode is a standout amongst cheap VM providers in the supply of attack traffic they make

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread Mark Fletcher via mailop
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:53 AM John Levine via mailop wrote: > > I am reasonably sure that no serious mail system uses UCEPROTECT as > anything > other than a very weak signal. It's not surprising they list what other > people list, since they list about half the net. > > Agreed. I think one of

Re: [mailop] warming up IPs, Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread John Levine via mailop
According to Simon Greenwood via mailop : >All those IPs are reported by UCEPROTECT and Polspam at the moment, and >I have seen that the 800lb gorillas seem to refer to UCEPROTECT, or at >least their findings coincide. I am reasonably sure that no serious mail system uses UCEPROTECT as anything

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2023-03-05 Thread Salvatore Jr Walter P via mailop
That looks like it could be very helpful. Thanks! ___ Walter P Salvatore Jr Systems Administrator Information Technology City of Warwick (401) 921-9663 https://www.warwickri.gov walter.p.salvat...@warwickri.gov From: Suresh

Re: [mailop] Microsoft?

2023-03-05 Thread Simon Greenwood via mailop
On 04/03/2023 01:09, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to warm up some new email server IP addresses, and I'm getting the following error sending to Microsoft addresses: [redacted].mail.protection.outlook.com 550 5.7.511 Access denied,

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2023-03-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
As far as I see you can configure dkim if this is the Sophos email appliance https://docs.sophos.com/central/customer/help/en-us/ManageYourProducts/GlobalSettings/EmailDomains/DkimKeys/ --srs From: Salvatore Jr Walter P Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:51:59 AM To: