[mailop] Outgoing Spam from Microsoft IPs

We've been seeing runs of spam mails from Microsoft IP addresses without reverse DNS (possibly cloud servers). One is sending with addresses , starting on February 8. The other (same or different spammer?) uses and started just yesterday. Have others seen these? Is there some way to

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

Hellow Benny, > spf is not designed for forwarding, stop forwarding, problem solved Yes, you are right! And if Google stops email service, i will also stop forwarding. Sincerely, Byunghee -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))// signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

Byunghee HWANG via mailop skrev den 2024-02-14 01:00: I really strongly agree with this opinion. That's why I wish people in the world didn't use SPF. SPF is a serious obstacle when forwarding. spf is not designed for forwarding, stop forwarding, problem solved dmarc need spf to find

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

Hellow Slavko, > If we will not change something, we will waste more power > in fighting, than for providing service. And IMO providing > service have to be goal... I really strongly agree with this opinion. That's why I wish people in the world didn't use SPF. SPF is a serious obstacle when

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Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

It appears that Marco Moock via mailop said: >> >>S/MIME will be applied to the forwarded messages and people will >> >>assume everything is fine even when the original message is forged. >> >> >> That’s why you apply S/MIME only if the original message can be >> verified as genuine, if your

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

Am 12.02.2024 um 15:35:30 Uhr schrieb Sebastian Nielsen: > >>If you forward spam (automatic forwarding), you will be listed as > >>the spammer because even DKIM is valid. > That’s why you do spam filtering in the forwarding server. There is no 100% solution for that and even a small amount of

Re: [mailop] Google rate limiting (UnsolicitedRateLimitError) for DKIM domain

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 at 18:09, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: - it has some redundant SPF records: On 13.02.24 18:26, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote: I'm not aware of issues with redundant SPF records, as long as I stay in the 10 lookup: what are you talking about? exactly this, I just have

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

Dňa 12. februára 2024 15:41:58 UTC používateľ Laura Atkins via mailop napísal: >In the face of those facts, what value does this bring to email? It seems as very good question, targeting the root of problem, as nobody was enough brave to argue... I ask more or less the same. Despite the fact,

Re: [mailop] Google rate limiting (UnsolicitedRateLimitError) for DKIM domain

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 at 18:09, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 05.02.24 14:56, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote: > >we are a small ESP and every email sent from our system has SPF+DKIM > >authentication from our system and most email also have a second DKIM > >signature (one signature with our

Re: [mailop] Google rate limiting (UnsolicitedRateLimitError) for DKIM domain

On 05.02.24 14:56, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote: we are a small ESP and every email sent from our system has SPF+DKIM authentication from our system and most email also have a second DKIM signature (one signature with our domain, one with the domain of the sender). is bago.org that domain?

Re: [mailop] DMARC on srs forwarding domains?

Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop skrev den 2024-02-13 16:00: I still think implementing SPF and SRS gives more value than ARC. On 13.02.24 16:17, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote: oh dear, if you really need both spf and srs, your problem is more deep then linux OP stated they already do

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

It appears that Taavi Eomäe via mailop said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On 13/02/2024 05:16, John Levine via mailop wrote: >> Right now if you get a message from Gmail or Yahoo with a valid DKIM >> signature, you >> can be quite confident that it came from whichever Gmail or Yahoo

Re: [mailop] DMARC on srs forwarding domains?

Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop skrev den 2024-02-13 16:00: I still think implementing SPF and SRS gives more value than ARC. oh dear, if you really need both spf and srs, your problem is more deep then linux begin trust maillists domains in arc, get better stable results on spf dkim

Re: [mailop] DMARC on srs forwarding domains?

On 02.02.24 16:26, Kai Bojens via mailop wrote: Skip SRS and implement ARC for forwarded e-mails. This should solve all these problems. On 2024-02-04 23:02:31 (+0800), Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop wrote: Does anyone blindly trust ARC signatures from random domains? I find it a huge

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

On 13/02/2024 05:16, John Levine via mailop wrote: Right now if you get a message from Gmail or Yahoo with a valid DKIM signature, you can be quite confident that it came from whichever Gmail or Yahoo user is in the From header. That's absolutely not the guarantee provided by DKIM though.

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

On 12/02/2024 21:57, Dave Crocker via mailop wrote: While it has gained respectable amounts of implementation in MUAs, it has achieved use only in specialized environments.  Any technology with a record that poor should be treated extremely skeptically, when considering future use I've