Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Arne Jensen via mailop
Den 04-03-2024 kl. 01:17 skrev Gareth Evans via mailop: Given: Received: from atlas.bondproducts.com (unknown [23.24.6.165]) by mx6.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ... [...] Received: from users.shellworld.net (users.shellworld.net [50.116.47.71]) by atlas.bondproduct

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Gareth Evans via mailop
On Mon 04/03/2024 at 01:41, Gareth Evans wrote: > ... > It seems FCrDNS (aka iprev) requires that > > "a given IP address has both forward (name-to-address) and reverse > (address-to-name) [DNS] entries that match each other ... the forward > and reverse lookup for the sending relay have to matc

[mailop] Mailop "best practices" - clarifications please

2024-03-03 Thread Gareth Evans via mailop
From https://www.mailop.org/best-practices "Having SPF for your own domains is usually considered a weak signal ..." Eh? "... as is filtering on them" Such as DNS filtering per https://www.ionos.co.uk/digitalguide/server/security/dns-filtering ? Can anyone add a little more background/meani

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Gareth Evans via mailop
On Mon 04/03/2024 at 01:05, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote: > Gareth Evans via mailop skrev den 2024-03-04 01:17: > >> Received: from atlas.bondproducts.com (unknown [23.24.6.165]) >> by mx6.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ... > > https://multirbl.valli.org/fcrdns-test/23.24.6.16

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Gareth Evans via mailop skrev den 2024-03-04 01:17: Received: from atlas.bondproducts.com (unknown [23.24.6.165]) by mx6.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ... https://multirbl.valli.org/fcrdns-test/23.24.6.165.html one red means fails [...] Received: from users.shellworld

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Gareth Evans via mailop
On Sun 03/03/2024 at 18:55, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:23:22PM +, Gareth Evans via mailop wrote: >> (Error NOERROR looking up 23.24.6.165 PTR,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking >> up 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A looking up >> 23-24-6-16

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Gareth Evans via mailop
On Mon 04/03/2024 at 00:17, Gareth Evans wrote: > if the IP actually resolved. If the host/domain actually resolved. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Dot as the first character of a line ? (RFC 5321, Section 4.5.2)

2024-03-03 Thread Chris Adams via mailop
Once upon a time, Cyril - ImprovMX said: > Just to clarify, I'm not trying to pin some issue on a company (Google) but > I'm trying to understand why aiosmtpd seems to follow an RFC that > appears to be clear on the behavior, that GMail doesn't do but doesn't > appear to be the only one (as my use

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am Sun, 03 Mar 2024 17:23:22 + schrieb Gareth Evans via mailop : > I am curious about the exact mechanism of PTR checks, and couldn't > find it in RFC5321 so presume it's not actually part of SMTP. Most server require that the PTR points to a domain name like mail.example.org and that has the

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:23:22PM +, Gareth Evans via mailop wrote: > (Error NOERROR looking up 23.24.6.165 PTR,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking > up 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A looking up > 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking u

[mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Gareth Evans via mailop
I am dealing with a correspondent whose "ultimate" sending mail server's PTR record contains a non-existent host. This is preventing delivery to gmail. In this case (headers from a message received elsewhere): -- Authentication-Results: mx6.messagingengine.com; [...] iprev=fail smtp.remote-ip=