Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On 2021-01-24 at 12:52 -0500, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article <6b96f527-0f53-494f-bb65-3e450a386...@wordtothewise.com> > you write: > > > Note: Some people will vehemently oppose to not placing filters, > > > though. Some threads at RIPE anti-abuse-wg show that. > > > > There are extrem

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

In article <6b96f527-0f53-494f-bb65-3e450a386...@wordtothewise.com> you write: >> Note: Some people will vehemently oppose to not placing filters, >> though. Some threads at RIPE anti-abuse-wg show that. > >There are extremely valid reasons to filter mail coming into the abuse mailbox >and I would

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

> On 23 Jan 2021, at 22:56, Ángel via mailop wrote: > > On 2021-01-22 at 18:24 +, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >> I think it’s a great idea. We’ve even discussed putting a RFC >> together listing this as best practice but have not found the time to >> do it. Updating / superseding 2142 o

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On 2021-01-23 at 23:56 +0100, Ángel wrote: > If any, you would want to define some kind of rejection message that > provided the equivalent of a "HTTP 301" so that the MTA itself could > redirect it to the right mailbox. And just minutes after sending this, I notice that reply code 551 is precisel

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On 2021-01-22 at 18:24 +, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: > I think it’s a great idea. We’ve even discussed putting a RFC > together listing this as best practice but have not found the time to > do it. Updating / superseding 2142 or whatever RFC that is would be > a Good Thing. > > laura I

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

Dnia 22.01.2021 o godz. 10:06:19 Marcel Becker via mailop pisze: > > I agree. I was merely responding to the notion that anything email is all > equal (it's a common misconception). Well, I may be old-fashioned and you may not agree with me, but I would say even more: Any company whose core busin

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On 1/22/21 10:51 AM, Gregory Heytings via mailop wrote: That's correct, but in that case what Sendgrid should do is to use a specific subdomain for abuse reports, e.g. use ab...@abuse.sendgrid.com instead of ab...@sendgrid.com, and run their own mailserver on abuse.sendgrid.com.  If two other m

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:02 AM Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > If a company is active in some business area, it should be competent in > handling the risks associated with that area. A small business does not > need to run an abuse desk, even though their e-mail accou

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

> On 22 Jan 2021, at 18:04, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:54 AM Gregory Heytings via mailop > wrote: > >> That's correct, but in that case what Sendgrid should do is to use a >> specific subdomain for abuse reports, e.g. use ab...@abuse.sendgrid.com >> instead of

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:54 AM Gregory Heytings via mailop wrote: > That's correct, but in that case what Sendgrid should do is to use a > specific subdomain for abuse reports, e.g. use ab...@abuse.sendgrid.com > instead of ab...@sendgrid.com, and run their own mailserver on > abuse.sendgrid.co

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

Am 22.01.21 um 17:16 schrieb Marcel Becker via mailop: > > > Bulk mail, email marketing, consumer email, enterprise email. Those are all > different businesses. Just because a > company does one thing doesn't mean it should be doing (or be good at) the > other.  True, but... If a company is act

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

Bulk mail, email marketing, consumer email, enterprise email. Those are all different businesses. Just because a company does one thing doesn't mean it should be doing (or be good at) the other.  That's correct, but in that case what Sendgrid should do is to use a specific subdomain for

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

> On 22 Jan 2021, at 16:16, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 7:11 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop > wrote: > > Strange that Sendgrid, being an email company, does not even self-host it's > company email, but resorts to Google for this. Doesn't

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 7:11 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > Strange that Sendgrid, being an email company, does not even self-host it's > company email, but resorts to Google for this. Doesn't look very > professional... > Bulk mail, email marketing, consumer email, enterprise email. Tho