[mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Ryan Harris via mailop
Hello, I was curious if anyone had documentation or knew appropriate times to keep an SMTP connection open and when to close that connection. Would connecting via telnet to an ISP and watching when that connection closes, be the source of truth on how long an SMTP connection should be lasting with

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Michael Peddemors
5 seconds :) Really, opening a new connection is normally faster than that, and some email endpoints might have a limited amount of SMTP sessions, so why hog them when someone else can use them.. A Polite 'neighbour' would not hold it open 1 second longer than is necessary... On 17-07-31

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
What are you optimizing for? Connection time/overhead? It would seem kind of pointless to keep a connection open for 10 minutes to save 2s of connection time, for example. Not that we're the best neighbors in this regard, but we don't reuse connections for the vast majority of endpoints, just th

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Ryan Harris via mailop
What are you optimizing for? Connection time/overhead? Optimizing for connection reuse since the overhead of creating connections is actually high for us. So we want to send as many messages as we can over a single connection before closing it. Naturally we don't want to cause unrest within the

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Laura Atkins
I suggest “as short as possible” - 10, maybe 20 seconds with no mail? laura > On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: > > > What are you optimizing for? Connection time/overhead? > > Optimizing for connection reuse since the overhead of creating connections is > actua

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Luis E. Muñoz
On 31 Jul 2017, at 13:21, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: Not that we're the best neighbors in this regard, but we don't reuse connections for the vast majority of endpoints, just the highest by volume, and we only keep connections open for potential reuse for 30s. Have you considered turning

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: > On 31 Jul 2017, at 13:21, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: > > Not that we're the best neighbors in this regard, but we don't reuse > connections for the vast majority of endpoints, just the highest by volume, > and we only keep connections ope

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-07-31 Thread Mark Milhollan
On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Ryan Harris wrote: >Naturally we don't want to cause unrest within the ecosphere by keeping >connections open for too long. Have you looked at the related RFCs? (2821 and 1123 primarily but et seq) >>It would seem kind of pointless to keep a connection open for 10 >>minu

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-08-01 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
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Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-08-01 Thread Steve Atkins
mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Mark Milhollan > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:48 PM > To: mailop > Subject: Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a > Connection Open > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Ryan Harris wrote: > > >Naturall

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-08-01 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/31/17 4:21 PM, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: Optimizing for connection reuse since the overhead of creating connections is actually high for us. So we want to send as many messages as we can over a single connection before closing it. So do that. When you have no more messages to deliver

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

2017-08-01 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
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