Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop
Any filtering is an evil and there is not any standard on how to implement spam filtering. Any spam filter has false positives, and Earthlink probably  accepts false positives from this rule because it's effective. DKIM and DMARC require message DATA to be sent, especially corporate / smaller ISP

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Thursday, 14 December, 2017 15:35, "Rob McEwen" said: > I think that the importance of FCrDNS, and of setting FCrDNS up with a > PTR record ending with the sender's PRIMARY domain name (or at least > using an important domain - not some throwaway or utility domain - so > that both identity

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Al Iverson
The PTR check is a lot older than checking for SPF, DKIM, and DMARC. It's probably a 15+ year old MTA rule and you're getting blocked before Earthlink would even have the chance to check for authentication via DKIM or SPF. (And I'm not even sure if they do, personally.) So yes, DKIM/SPF matter, els

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/14/2017 09:27 AM, Ryan Prihoda wrote: > > What about SPF, DMARC, DKIM ? I am sending 250k/day and only Earthlink > seems to care. Out of the box, SpamAssassin will penalize you too: https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RDNS_NONE ___ mailop

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Rob McEwen
On 12/14/2017 10:09 AM, Ryan Prihoda wrote: What I was saying is FCrDNS /that /important to fail delivery when the others are readily available to verify ? I think that the importance of FCrDNS, and of setting FCrDNS up with a PTR record ending with the sender's PRIMARY domain name (or at leas

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Ryan Prihoda
Yes, I have proper SPF DMARC and DKIM set. What I was saying is FCrDNS /that /important to fail delivery when the others are readily available to verify ? I am not trying to push back , just understand. I'll be fixing this issue as soon as we can. So, what other email authentications methods a

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
If you want to be a good neighbour, you should have a restrictive (not ~all) SPF, DMARC, DKIM and a FcRDNS coherent with your HELO. If you have all that, you should be able to send to anyone (besides hotmail). Obviously, you should also not be in any major blacklists. On 12/14/2017 03:27 PM, Ryan

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Ryan Prihoda wrote: > > What about SPF, DMARC, DKIM ? I am sending 250k/day and only Earthlink > seems to care. How many checks are actually necessary ? > > You should look to implement SPF and DKIM for sure. As for only earthlink seeming to care, how do you know

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-14 Thread Ryan Prihoda
What about SPF, DMARC, DKIM ? I am sending 250k/day and only Earthlink seems to care. How many checks are actually necessary ? -Ryan On 12/13/2017 03:32 PM, Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop wrote: Not only Earthlink cares, it's a standard procedure. This validation confirms your IP really belo

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-13 Thread Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop
Not only Earthlink cares, it's a standard procedure. This validation confirms your IP really belongs to the domain. This is standard validation for PTR everyone does, without this validation you can set PTR to arbitrary domain (e.g. example.com). Not everyone rejects messages based on this check,

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-13 Thread Ryan Prihoda
Thanks for the article. I'll see what I can do to resolve this with the higher ups. On 12/13/2017 03:10 PM, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: You should have a look at this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS On 12/13/2017 10:02 PM, Ryan Prihoda wrote: William,

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-13 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
You should have a look at this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS On 12/13/2017 10:02 PM, Ryan Prihoda wrote: > William, > > Yes our PTR is set correctly, but our domain does resolve to a different > IP. Why does only Earthlink care about that ? Seems silly. > >

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-13 Thread Ryan Prihoda
William, Yes our PTR is set correctly, but our domain does resolve to a different IP. Why does only Earthlink care about that ? Seems silly. Sincerely, *Ryan Prihod**a *Systems Administrator *dyna**ConnectionsCorp. *1101 S. Capital of TX Hwy. Bldg. H, Suite 130 Austin, Texas 78746 rprih

Re: [mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-13 Thread W Kern
its misleading. We saw that a few weeks ago. Make sure the FQDN you reverse zone file provides, also resolves back to the same IP. We were just as confused. The PTR was there, but because of a typo it didn't resolve. Fixed that and Earthlink was happy. Sincerely, William Kern Pixelgate

[mailop] Earthlink trouble with our PTR

2017-12-13 Thread Ryan Prihoda
Hello all, We are getting errors from one of our servers. 550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries When, in fact there is only one record for that IP. Can anyone from Earthlink look into this for us ? Sincerely, *Ryan Prihod**a *Systems Administrator *dyna**ConnectionsCor