[mailop] Google to the WCP?

2019-04-11 Thread Dave Romerstein
We (Apple) are trying to determine why non-marketing email from a third-party vendor being sent on our behalf is getting Junk-foldered. I tried to reach out to a contact there from my work address (cc:ed on this mail) a few days ago, but haven't heard anything and I've got some high-level folks loo

Re: [mailop] Google to the WCP?

2019-04-11 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 4/11/19 2:23 PM, Dave Romerstein wrote: We (Apple) are trying to determine why non-marketing email from a third-party vendor being sent on our behalf is getting Junk-foldered. Most likely, the third-party vendor sending mail on your behalf is also sending substantial amounts of mail on beh

Re: [mailop] Google to the WCP?

2019-04-11 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
n Behalf Of Dave Romerstein Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:23 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Cc: ro...@apple.com Subject: [mailop] Google to the WCP? We (Apple) are trying to determine why non-marketing email from a third-party vendor being sent on our behalf is getting Junk-foldered. I tried to reach out to

Re: [mailop] Google to the WCP?

2019-04-12 Thread Mark Milhollan
Google inspects Received headers and checks SPF for each ignoring those showing an RFC-1918 address, any of which failing means a pretty good chance the message will be given the SPAM tag, i.e., SPF is checked not just for the connected peer. So a message originated at 192.168.1.101 and relaye

Re: [mailop] Google to the WCP?

2019-04-12 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Pretty sure we don't do that well, I mean, if you set up a GSuite account and specify inbound gateways, we attempt to walk the Received headers to find the "true" external IP and do SPF based on that, but doing SPF on all received headers would be weird... and externally visible to anyone who u