Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:47:00AM -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: > Keep in mind that, if a marketer is doing things the right way, they should > have no need to obfuscate their own domain name. They should instead > proudly use it and not feel the need to hide behind Google's shortner. Or behind hundr

Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-21 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2018-02-21 11:22:46 (+0100), Stefano Bagnara wrote: On 21 February 2018 at 09:44, Philip Paeps wrote: Following JavaScript redirects is probably all but impossible except for the simplest case because of the halting problem. Unless you want to execute the JavaScript ... and down that road

Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-21 Thread Stefano Bagnara
On 21 February 2018 at 09:44, Philip Paeps wrote: > [...] > Following JavaScript redirects is probably all but impossible except for the > simplest case because of the halting problem. Unless you want to execute > the JavaScript ... and down that road lies madness. > > Seems a lot more expedient

Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-21 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2018-02-21 13:46:52 (+0530), Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On 21/02/18, 12:50 PM, Daniele Duca wrote: On 21/02/2018 06:40, Philip Paeps wrote: I wonder if anyone has written comprehensive SpamAssassin rules to score shortened URLs? It occurs to me that a milter to expand the shortened URLs

Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Does this code by Steve Freegard just use curl or does it follow javascript redirects?(haven't checked yet) For curl all you need is curl -sIL and look for the Location: tagged lines But that won't follow anything that depends on javascript instead of http redirects to reach the final desti

Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-20 Thread Daniele Duca
On 21/02/2018 06:40, Philip Paeps wrote: I wonder if anyone has written comprehensive SpamAssassin rules to score shortened URLs? It occurs to me that a milter to expand the shortened URLs would also be very useful. If you use SA take a look at https://github.com/smfreegard/DecodeShortURLs

Re: [mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-20 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2018-02-20 10:47:00 (-0500), Rob McEwen wrote: RE: The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response) I think more generally "URL shorteners are out of control". ALSO: We're very seriously evaluating the option of converting each shortner to the URL it redirects to - and th

[mailop] The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-02-20 Thread Rob McEwen
RE: The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response) WARNING FOR ESPs AND MARKETERS: Google's "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL. Spammers are starting to use this to evade spam filters, and Google isn't keeping up with the abuse, nor shutting these down fast enough. Along