Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-18 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 17 Apr 2020, at 18:55, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: On 17 Apr 2020, at 15:20, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: If you're going to copy what he does just block 0/0, it's faster. :\ And cheaper! :-) Al grossly overstates what I block, even for my personal special subdomain full of

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-17 Thread Luis E. Muñoz via mailop
On 17 Apr 2020, at 15:20, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: If you're going to copy what he does just block 0/0, it's faster. :\ And cheaper! :-) Not my intention at all. But the collection of network ranges would be useful to me in trying to understand how a large collection of distributed

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-17 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
If you're going to copy what he does just block 0/0, it's faster. :\ Al On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:34 PM Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: > > > Wow, > > tried twice to email you directly w no luck > > - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > > (reason: 550 5.7.1

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-17 Thread Luis E. Muñoz via mailop
Wow, tried twice to email you directly w no luck - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - (reason: 550 5.7.1 : Client host rejected: Get a real domain, spammy) Oh well, thank you anyway. -lem On 17 Apr 2020, at 12:31, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: On 17 Apr

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-17 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 17 Apr 2020, at 10:42, Steven Champeon via mailop wrote: I sent this to John offlist but here is a list of the IPs that are doing stupid and useless queries against one of our mirrors (couple of days stale but still potentially useful to someone): count IP 122 172.253.12.1

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2020-04-17 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article , Andrew Barrett via mailop wrote: >Do Gmail/Google consume data from any other RBL, even where G/G might >periodically create a local copy to query? At least one claims G/G does, >but I remain skeptical. I am reasonably sure they do but I am quite sure they do it by a private bulk

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2020-04-17 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Understand your frustration, especially when the big guys don't SWIP (or rwhois) very clearly... NetRange: 172.253.0.0 - 172.253.255.255 CIDR: 172.253.0.0/16 NetName:GOOGLE NetHandle: NET-172-253-0-0-1 Parent: NET172 (NET-172-0-0-0-0) NetType:Direct

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-17 Thread Steven Champeon via mailop
I sent this to John offlist but here is a list of the IPs that are doing stupid and useless queries against one of our mirrors (couple of days stale but still potentially useful to someone): count IP 122 172.253.12.1 119 172.253.14.3 117 172.253.12.2

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2020-04-16 Thread Andrew Barrett via mailop
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 3:06 PM Brandon Long via mailop wrote: I can guarantee that Gmail/Google doesn't do external rbl queries for live > traffic[1]. > Do Gmail/Google consume data from any other RBL, even where G/G might periodically create a local copy to query? At least one claims G/G does,

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2020-04-15 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-04-14 at 00:02 -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article <20200411183502.ga31...@hesketh.com> you write: > >And yet, for years, Google has been doing reverse-octet lookups against > >it. ... > > Can you provide a list of IPs that are sending the queries? I'd think that > would >

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-13 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <20200411183502.ga31...@hesketh.com> you write: >And yet, for years, Google has been doing reverse-octet lookups against >it. ... Can you provide a list of IPs that are sending the queries? I'd think that would be a lot more likely to identify the culprint than "Google". Remember

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-13 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2020-04-13 15:00, Steven Champeon via mailop wrote: on Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:54:17AM -0700, Brandon Long wrote: Are you sure this isn't just the Google Public DNS servers? Why would a DNS server be querying our mirrors? it's kinda the obvious use-case innit? I can guarantee that

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-13 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Why would a DNS server be querying our mirrors? Have you ever seen anyone instruct anyone else to use 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 as the DNS server configured on their platform? I might even go so far as to surmise that would be a default configuration in the VPSes of more than one provider. -- Atro

Re: [mailop] contact at google

2020-04-13 Thread Steven Champeon via mailop
on Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:54:17AM -0700, Brandon Long wrote: > Are you sure this isn't just the Google Public DNS servers? Why would a DNS server be querying our mirrors? > I can guarantee that Gmail/Google doesn't do external rbl queries for live > traffic[1]. There might be some dashboard

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2020-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Are you sure this isn't just the Google Public DNS servers? I can guarantee that Gmail/Google doesn't do external rbl queries for live traffic[1]. There might be some dashboard around that someone uses to see if any of our addresses are on various rbls, though I haven't seen those used in a long

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2020-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I should point out, _spf.google.com actually includes three netblocks sub records, _netblocks is not all of them. Brandon On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:54 AM Brandon Long wrote: > Are you sure this isn't just the Google Public DNS servers? > > I can guarantee that Gmail/Google doesn't do external

[mailop] contact at google

2020-04-11 Thread Steven Champeon via mailop
Are there any Google folks here? We have a few rbldnsd mirrors, hosting a custom DNSBL for Enemieslist which is not your standard reverse-octet IP-based lookup (instead, you pre-pend a PTR record or HELO to the zones before you query, and get a reply that lets you know how we've classified that