Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-12 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Bill Cole via mailop skrev den 2024-07-12 16:13: Any SMTP client which does not fall back to the A record when no MX records exists is fundamentally broken. and here its more fun when domain is nullMX it would be fail to failback to A/ :) sendmail -f yourmailaddrhere -bv f...@example.or

Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-12 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 12Jul24, Bill Cole via mailop apparently wrote: > > Nearly 1/2 a century later, it's still the case that most mail clients > > will look for address RRs in the absence of an MX. > > Because failing to do so would be ignoring a requirement of the SMTP > specification. Yes. Everyone knows this

Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-12 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-07-11 at 23:35:05 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:35:05 +) Mark Delany via mailop is rumored to have said: Nearly 1/2 a century later, it's still the case that most mail clients will look for address RRs in the absence of an MX. Because failing to do so would be ignoring a requirem

Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-11 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 11Jul24, Cody Millard via mailop apparently wrote: > What is "A RR" ? Sounds like they're talking about DNS A RRs (Address records). Circa 1986 the DNS community introduced the MX RR with a view to transitioning away from how a mail client would look up an address RR directly for a target dom

Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-11 Thread Jeff Pang via mailop
On 2024-07-12 10:55, Cody Millard via mailop wrote: What is "A RR" ? A resource record. -- Jeff Pang jeffp...@aol.com ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-11 Thread Cody Millard via mailop
What is "A RR" ? On 7/11/2024 9:07 PM, Jeff Pang via mailop wrote: As a old email provider, safe-mail.net has even no MX records, but using A RR for incoming messages. do you know why they design this? for better anti-abuse control? Thanks. -- Cody Millard https://email.broker _

Re: [mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-11 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Jeff Pang via mailop said: >As a old email provider, safe-mail.net has even no MX records, but using >A RR for incoming messages. do you know why they design this? for better >anti-abuse control? Most likely they stumbled around decades ago setting up the DNS, found that worked

[mailop] safe-mail.net

2024-07-11 Thread Jeff Pang via mailop
As a old email provider, safe-mail.net has even no MX records, but using A RR for incoming messages. do you know why they design this? for better anti-abuse control? Thanks. -- Jeff Pang jeffp...@aol.com ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org http