Roman Nisbet, thou that singest etc. yn
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:16:11 +0100 > Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas as a trusted leader > From: "D P Nelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > There is a very good article by Roman Nisbet (in the Bulletin of the > Institute of Classical Studies or in the Proceedings of the Virgil Society?) > on Aeneas as a Roman imperator. > Francis Cairns in his Virgil's Augustan Epic discusses Aeneas in the light > of kingship theory, i.e. he embodies the qualities (listed by Cairns) of an > ideal king. > D.P. Nelis > ---------- > >From: JAMES C Wiersum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: VIRGIL: Aeneas as a trusted leader > >Date: Tue, Apr 13, 1999, 19:43 > > > > > I'm a bicyclist and on my days off I do some long rides and some > >"long" thinking. It came to me one day pushing up a hill that Aeneas is > >presented differently from other leaders. If you take the supreme > >paradigm, "The Iliad," Agamemnon is not a trusted leader; Agamemnon is > >criticized in numerous ways; Agamemnon's troops are a divided bunch when > >it comes to his decisions. Aeneas, though, is trusted -- or so it > >seems.There does not appear to be a Thersites in the Aeneid. > > If Aeneas is "driven by fate," his followers are driven by > >Aeneas. They seem to follow where he goes without ever questioning. > >Aeneas, as far as I can tell, is never criticized. Virgil departs here > >from the Homeric pattern. I find this curious. I find this very thought > >provoking. > > I would like to know what the rest of you think in regards to how > >Aeneas is presented as a leader. I would like to know what the rest of > >you think as to why Virgil presented Aeneas in this way. Is Aeneas' > >leadership presented by Virgil as a new kind of leadership? Why do > >Aeneas' followers follow him with so much trust? > > > >James C. Wiersum > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. > >Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message > >"unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You > >can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. > Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message > "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You > can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub > Yvan Nadeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0131-650-3575 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub