Re: VIRGIL: artes romanae

2006-09-30 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
It's those exceptions, oratory and poetry, that give me pause. It's easy to be modest about poetry when you have something else to fall back on, such as a political career. So far as we know, Virgil didn't pursue that. He wrote about power, but he didn't seek it. Of course, he did get influence, wh

Re: VIRGIL: artes romanae

2006-09-30 Thread Leofranc Holford-Strevens
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Wilson-Okamura writes Yesterday I was lecturing on these lines, which we all know by heart:   excudent alii spirantia mollius aera (credo equidem), uiuos ducent de marmore uultus, orabunt causas melius, caelique meatus describent radio et surgentia sidera d

VIRGIL: artes romanae

2006-09-30 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Yesterday I was lecturing on these lines, which we all know by heart:   excudent alii spirantia mollius aera (credo equidem), uiuos ducent de marmore uultus, orabunt causas melius, caelique meatus describent radio et surgentia sidera dicunt: tu regere imperio populos, Romane, memento (hae tibi eru

Re: VIRGIL: boiling the must

2006-09-30 Thread Leofranc Holford-Strevens
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John O'Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Greetings to the list. Why, in Georgics 1.295, is the peasant woman boiling the must? Thomas's note ad loc. leaves me entirely mystified: "The boiling down of must was a means of bypassing fermentation." How on earth can