RE: VIRGIL: what is this dread longing? (A. 6.721)

1998-04-15 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:32:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Neven Jovanovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to everyone who passed in silence over my too-hasty blunder. At 6,640-1 Vergil provides the light for the Anchises' part of the Underworld: Largior hic campos aether et lumine vestit purpureo, solemq

RE: VIRGIL: what is this dread longing? (A. 6.721)

1998-04-12 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Last week I asked one of my wife's colleagues, Radcliffe Edmonds, a Platonic version of my question about why the soul's in Virgil's Elysium desire to assume the burden of flesh. He's given me permission to post his (very generous) ramblings to this query to the list. -

RE: VIRGIL: what is this dread longing? (A. 6.721)

1998-04-11 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:46:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Neven Jovanovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Robert R. Dyer wrote: > I think we need to remember that the soul, according to Plato, is housed > in the body. It seems to me that he may think of the soul as needing a > home. What d

Re: VIRGIL: what is this dread longing? (A. 6.721)

1998-04-07 Thread Robert R. Dyer
I think we need to remember that the soul, according to Plato, is housed in the body. It seems to me that he may think of the soul as needing a home. What does the list make of ratio and mens in the shades? Do Vergil's manes have these qualities, as Socrates seems to hope and assume in Plato's Apol

Re: VIRGIL: what is this dread longing? (A. 6.721)

1998-04-07 Thread Philip Thibodeau
>Why do the purified souls in Virgil's Elysium desire to resume the flesh? This is an interesting question; I'm not sure what a good answer would even look like, but I want to raise two points: 1) The god summons the band of souls, both of the felicitous and the ordinary folk, to the Lethe, after

Re: VIRGIL: what is this dread longing? (A. 6.721)

1998-04-07 Thread Yvan Nadeau
I have always read this in the way you do: that on a "mechanical" level, the souls follow the cycle, and the command of the god, without really having any choice in the matter. The reason they actually WANT to go back is that, having drunk of Lethe, they forget what Elysium is like and how mu