I thought it might add very modestly the debate about teaching Virgil in
translation if I recounted something that has happened to me in the last few
days.
I am a professional ecologist, not a Classics scholar or a teacher, and I
read Virgil, both in Latin and in translation simply because I enjoy
Patrick Roper wrote (inter alia, in a long and interesting post):
>The first line I read was "Nox erat et terris animalia somnus
>habebant," strikingly similar to my earlier experience and the way I had
>expressed it (only much better).
>
>As far as I am aware, I was not familiar with this line, t
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Simon Cauchi
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because the phrase
exactly conveys the feeling of a poetic nightpiece---which, by the way, I'm
sure must be a form antedating Virgil, but I can't cite examples.
Try Apollonius Rhodius 3. 744-50 (setting up the contrast with
.
Vale.
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Ita est, ut ais, doctissime Leofranc Holford-Strevens, sed Apollonius
cum Vergilio Aen. IV, 522-529 (in versu 525 legiturÂ: siluaeque et
saeua quierant aequora, quod plane ad illud âÂsleeping earthÂâ spectat
) compa
Simon Cauchi said, in a response to my posting:
> May I raise a pedantic objection? Patrick's phrase "the idea of the living
> earth sleeping" is brilliantly evocative, but it seems to me that the
> Virgilian line conveys something different. The earth's living creatures
> are sleeping, not the ea
A note on "Nox ruit" Night "sinks" like the dome of the night sky
rolling down under the land. So it makes sense that dawn is imminent
(no semantic pun intended).
J. Ebersole
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Simon Cauchi said, in a response to my posting:
> May I raise a ped
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>I usually use the Loeb Classical 'pony' edition of the Aeneid and the
>translation given there is "It was night and on earth sleep held the living
>world." The phrase "the living world" can, clearly, be understood as eit
'Formular language' vocatur istud nox erat et terr(is/as) plane fuit; et in Ovidium a Vergilio mea sententia allatum.
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n have a
fine journey of the imagination in a few hours...
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> I thought it might add very modestly the debat
> A comment on Patrick Roper's brief and moving reflection: I first read
> Virgil almost 50 years ago, and only recently did I realize that I've also
> experienced something close to what he describes-- lines that I enjoy in a
> manner similar to the most simple enjoyment of nature.
> His mention
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