Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread Paul Spencer
The problem in this particular case is that Fusion unnecessarily enumerates the full schema of all the layers during initialization, which for the Oracle provider in particular is very slow. The ajax viewer takes a different approach and defers schema enumeration until it is necessary for

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread Andrew DeMerchant
Nope - not using Oracle for anything (though I am using Access to render spatial objects)...Just a suggestion from someone who was also noticing a slow Fusion startup time, compared to ajax. Andrew gingerbbm wrote: We're using IIS6. Are you using Fusion to render Oracle spatial objects i

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread gingerbbm
We're using IIS6. Are you using Fusion to render Oracle spatial objects in MapGuide? I'll take a look at that link! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fusion-%2B-Oracle-datasource-problem-tp17884373p19092627.html Sent from the MapGuide Users mailing list archive at Nabble.co

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread Andrew DeMerchant
What sort of webserver are you running? I'm using IIS5, and just enabled compression using FlatCompression (www.flatcompression.org) and it has dramatically sped up my initial load times for Fusion Andrew gingerbbm wrote: Rock Beans wrote: To be honest how does the data sou

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread gingerbbm
Thanks Paul :) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fusion-%2B-Oracle-datasource-problem-tp17884373p19092411.html Sent from the MapGuide Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mapguide-users mailing list mapguide-users@lists.o

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread gingerbbm
Rock Beans wrote: > > To be honest how does the data source type affect one viewer over the > other > It's simply the problem that startup takes an age - if it works at all. And with more than ten or so layers it simply doesn't work. But it's true that if and when the initial load is done it al

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread Rock Beans
To be honest how does the data source type affect one viewer over the other. I would think you would have the same issues in both. Most of the API calls are identical. I know there is a JavaScript compression fix that should be released soon with Fusion that should speed up initial loads. I am seei

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-21 Thread Paul Spencer
We also discuss things on the fusion mailing list (see http://trac.osgeo.org/fusion) . Please note that there is typically a long lag between new open source development and the appearance of the code in related commercial products as the commercial products typically go through much longer

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-20 Thread gingerbbm
That all sounds really promising but unfortunately I'm working to an aggressive deadline, and having paid money for the Autodesk MapGuide product I sort of assumed it would operate consistently regardless of my choice of viewer. So what's the best way of keeping track of these new developments? D

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Spencer
We are going to be looking specifically at this issue of startup time in the next few weeks, it would be very useful to be able to have you test and provide feedback on how much improvement we are able to make. The current method of initialization enumerates the full schema of all the layer

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-20 Thread gingerbbm
I'm pretty disappointed. I've invested a lot of time learning Fusion and now I discover that as far as Oracle is concerned it's not fit for purpose. It takes an age on initial load, and has a limit of around ten layers maximum. :( -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fusion-%

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-20 Thread Zac Spitzer
this will make a huge diference http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc53 does fusion make it's requests in a sync or aync fashion? if they aren't sync, there maybe one or more full describe schemas being performed z On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM, gingerbbm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-08-20 Thread gingerbbm
I wish I hadn't just discovered this issue. Paul Spencer-5 wrote: > > I hope that this will be part of the next Fusion release. > Is Oracle + Fusion speed going to be improved in the next release? And when is the next release? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fusion-

Re: [mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Spencer
Hi Klaus, this is something that others have reported to me as well, it seems that Fusion does some dumb things on initialization that it doesn't really need to do, including retrieving the schema of layers in the MapDefinition. Fixing this will require some rearchitecting of how Fusion

[mapguide-users] Fusion + Oracle datasource problem

2008-06-17 Thread Klaus Lehtonen
Hi The problem is that the Fusion Viewer loads very slowly compared to AJAX and DWF viewers when using Oracle database as a feature source. The AJAX and DWF viewers load to browser in about two seconds, but the Fusion Viewer takes tens of seconds and with some maps times out after a minute. The l