It seems to me that the disturbing thing is the difference of 2.5 for Pt1
between the two lots of output quoted.
Is this a "centre of pixel" vs "top left of pixel" difference?
If so, what versions of the software are you using? And, has it been
corrected in the latest (MI 7.8 / 8.0 / +) and VM?

Ian Thomas
GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia


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From: Campbell, Keith A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 9:38 PM
To: 'MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com'
Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: ESRI Grid Files

Well, I'm certainly no expert on grid files formats, but MI will not open
the ASCII file format exported by ArcGIS. Grid Tools will not convert it
either, but Vertical Mapper will import it, and I think export it (ASCII
grid export (.txt). However, I do retract my statement about VM .grd files -
MI will open these. I think my confusion here was caused by the fact that I
had imported an ASCII grid with VM and it saved it in GRD format. I was then
puzzled to find that the MapInfo  3DMap option was not available for this
file type. So I exported it to .mig with VM and opened that in MI - the 3D
option was then available. However, I have tried opening the .grd file
through the MI Open dialog since your post and it overwrites the tab file;
the 3d Map option is then available. So I conclude that the metadata in the
tab file created by VM is different to that created by MI and this prevents
the 3D option from being available in the menu. The tab contents are
reproduced below to demonstrate the difference.

VM (3.1) produced:-

!table
!Version 300
!charset WindowsLatin1

Definition Table
  File "afxyzs5o_.grd"
  Type "RASTER"
  (499000.000000,152000.000000) (0,0) Label "Pt 1",
  (503995.000000,147005.000000) (999,999) Label "Pt 2",
  (499000.000000,147005.000000) (0,999) Label "Pt 3"
CoordSys Earth Projection 8, 79,"m", -2,49,0.9996012717,400000,-100000
UNITS "m"

ReadOnly
begin_metadata
"\Vm\Grid" = "Numeric"
"\IsReadOnly" = "FALSE"

end_metadata


MI 7.5 produced:-

!table
!version 500
!charset WindowsLatin1

Definition Table
  File "afxyzs5o.grd"
  Type "RASTER"
  (499002.5,151997.5) (0,0) Label "Pt 1",
  (503997.5,151997.5) (1000,0) Label "Pt 2",
  (503997.5,147002.5) (1000,1000) Label "Pt 3",
  (499002.5,147002.5) (0,1000) Label "Pt 4"
  CoordSys Earth Projection 8, 79, "m", -2, 49, 0.9996012717, 400000,
-100000
  Units "m"
  RasterStyle 6 1

Seems to be the ' RasterStyle 6 1' line that makes the difference - if this
manually added to the VM produced tab file, the 3D Map option is available!

Good news about tighter integration between VM and MI and also ESRI grids in
MI 8.0!

Regards,

Keith


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2005 13:47
To: Campbell, Keith A
Subject: Re: MI-L SUM: ESRI Grid Files


Sorry, I'm not sure I understand here.

MI Pro can open ASCII DEM files, GTOPO30, and DTED level 0, 1, and 2 grid
files either directly from File>Open >Files of type: Grid,  as well as using
the GridTools.MBX which you can use to convert them to MIG format. This  has
existed since v6.5 at least. Perhaps the structure of these ASCII files does
not follow the USGS ASCII DEM convention, but one of ESRI's? MI Pro has also
had a Vertical Mapper raster handler shipping with it for last several years
or so, that allows you to open VM *.grd & *.grc format grids directly.
Northwood, then Marconi, supplied this grid\raster handler off their website
for a couple years even before it was incorporated into MI Pro itself. Are
the *.GRD files you're trying to open actually VM grids, or are they a
different format using same extension?  There are several out there that
share the same extension as VM. MapInfo now owns the source code and
development rights to VM, so in future releases this integration will be
even tighter too. The only thing we don't currently support are ESRI grid
format files and if you want to know a little secret, as of MI 8.0, that
will be a thing of the past too.

Kind Regards,
-Bill




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I've had a couple of enquiries about this, so thought I'd better sum the
results.

The question was how to get ESRI grid files into MapInfo. MI will not read
ESRI grid files, nor other file formats such as ASCII text that ArcGIS can
export, so another product is required. Vertical Mapper can import ASCII
(and export MIG if need be). It's interesting that MI will not read the
Vertical Mapper GRD format. To go straight from ESRI grid into Vertical
Mapper (not MI) another add-on such as Grid Translator Pro ;
http://www.geomaticssystems.com/Products/GTPMapInfo.htm
<http://www.geomaticssystems.com/Products/GTPMapInfo.htm>  is required
(thanks to Ihab Hawater for that one).

Jaromir Svasta suggested that Grid Analyzer: http://www.terris.sk/ga.php
<http://www.terris.sk/ga.php>  is a good alternative to Vertical Mapper.

Regards,

Keith


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