Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-09 Thread Ian Thomson
, June 09, 2010 4:35 AM To: Peter Robinson Cc: Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero; marketing; b...@alum.mit.edu; iaep Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi,   Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah.  In specific, today I got Sugar running on the ARM SoC we'll be using for XO-1.75 and XO-3, and it didn't require any porting at all. It would have

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, What's the plan for the boot loader, is it planned to use OF still and port it to the ARM platform or is it planned to use one of the more mainline ARM bootloaders such as uboot or the like. Right now we're using uboot, but the plan is to port and continue using OFW. (OFW is

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi,   Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah.  

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I strongly encourage the Sugar team to consider rethinking the Sugar UI from the ground up for touch. The simple port is likely to yield a very unsatisfactory experience; fat fingers are just not precise pointing devices, and a lot of gestures which seem intuitive for a mouse don't really work

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/03/2010 01:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: My suggestion would be to first convene a ground up rethink of what a touch-based Sugar could be. ... The result should be a *book*, which describes the ideal UI. That will be the long term (think, next decade!) goals for Sugar. That's a

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On 4 June 2010 06:21, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: On 06/03/2010 01:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: My suggestion would be to first convene a ground up rethink of what a touch-based Sugar could be. ... The result should be a *book*, which describes the ideal UI.

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tim, As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced slightly. This is going to make life much more difficult, because of our longstanding Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. What is Sugar Labs' role with the XO-3+? I don't understand -- the XO-3 (and XO-1.5)

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On 4 June 2010 09:07, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Tim, As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced slightly. This is going to make life much more difficult, because of our longstanding Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. What is Sugar Labs' role with

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/03/2010 05:29 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: I guess life is slightly different when you can talk to a manufacturer and avoid Windows CE altogether. Yes, hacking open someone else's closed hardware can be a pain, and we don't have that problem. Also, given that Android doesn't use many GNU

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah. In specific, today I got Sugar running on the ARM SoC we'll be using for XO-1.75 and XO-3, and it didn't require any porting at all. It would have happened yesterday, but I had to work out how to get past the Sugar

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All... See comment/question below Caryl From: w...@laptop.org Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:27:12 -0400 To: csc...@cscott.net CC: marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; to...@sugarlabs.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; raf...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows