> But "GNOME" also means "gnome", i.e. a small, dumpy, cutesy-stupid type
> fellow. Following Murray's repeated points about brand association, is
> that the type of image we want?
well maybe it's not the type of image we want, but imho it's way too
late to change that name: it's been 8 years sin
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 20:16 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
> > Oh! Then why do we capitalise it? Is it still an acronym? If so, what
> > do the letters stand for?
>
> who cares about that? several brands are usually spelled in
> uppercase, and that doesn't seem to undermine their popularity or
>
> I don't think this is of much value to the developers. They do tend to
> read web site comments when we do major releases, so reiterating the
> comments doesn't help them much.
i don't know which developers do read this stuff and which ones don't,
so this list was supposed to be a summary of all
> i think we're pretty much obsessed with "the real gnome", but we need to
> accept that the real gnome is the one real people receive with real
> distros...
In large part, we do, as we're very pragmatic about our relationship with
distributions and other major projects. They are a crucial part
> It's GNOME plus what GNOME needs to run. We do reverse major Ubuntu
> changes such as browse-mode-as-default and Firefox-instead-of-epiphany,
> and the theme, so it's a pretty pure GNOME experience.
but what's the point of offering people a "pretty pure gnome
experience" if real-life gnome (the
> Perhaps we are getting too obsessed about this idea that people need to
> test something before getting it.
well, people like to test things that could f*ck up their computers
beyond all recognition... and wether we like it or not, that's what
could happen when you install a new operating system
> Oh! Then why do we capitalise it? Is it still an acronym? If so, what
> do the letters stand for?
who cares about that? several brands are usually spelled in
uppercase, and that doesn't seem to undermine their popularity or
acceptance...
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On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 16:47 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > What is GNOME? We seem to fond of asking that question these days. The
> > answer is simple: it is the GNU Network Object Model Environment.
>
> That is never ever the answer, and hasn't been for a long time. If it's
> anywhere on our
Hi,
John Williams wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 11:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
We have lots of data. Every GNOME release, we get data. So far, we've
simply had no way to analyse, synthesis and transmit that data to the
people who need to get it.
Can you be more specific please Dave? What ki
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:59:41 +1300
John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have, for some time, been uncomfortable with the use of the phrase
> "switch to GNOME" in our private and public communications. However
> after looking at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb I think it is time to
> bring
> On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 18:03 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
>
>> Without straying too far from the topic - What is GNOME ? Or as someone
>> recently asked me in one session for college kids (WTF is guh-nome)
>
> With respect to the recent discussion on slogans and general discussion
> of a
[snip]
> "Switch to" implies giving up what you are already using. This is a big
> step psychologically for some (most?) people.
[snip]
This makes a lot of sense to me. We shouldn't start out by scaring people.
However, actually switching does have a lot of benefits and it's what many
home users
I have, for some time, been uncomfortable with the use of the phrase
"switch to GNOME" in our private and public communications. However
after looking at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb I think it is time to
bring my reservations about this out into the open.
"Switch to" implies giving up what you
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 13:15 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> Time to revive this thread again.
Cool!
> On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 18:50 +1200, John Williams wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 22:25 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > Try to explain the issues to us, and suggest definite actions. There are
>
Hi all
I have attempted to summarise the "Real Marketing" thread here:
http://live.gnome.org/RealMarketing
I think this could become the basis for something good, but I'm not sure
what, yet.
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On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 18:03 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> Without straying too far from the topic - What is GNOME ? Or as someone
> recently asked me in one session for college kids (WTF is guh-nome)
With respect to the recent discussion on slogans and general discussion
of about "Real
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 11:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
> We have lots of data. Every GNOME release, we get data. So far, we've
> simply had no way to analyse, synthesis and transmit that data to the
> people who need to get it.
Oooh! Oooh! Pick me! Pick me!
Can you be more specific please Dave?
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 10:01 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> I'll put a poll on gnomdesktop about the slogan suggestions. It's not the
> best way of choosing something, but it's better than nothing, and it might
> force marketing experts to have an opinion.
Good on you, Murray, for prodding the "expe
> With the LiveCDs (and soon the VMPlayer images) it is almost that
easy.
Check. In about 90 seconds I am going to give a copy of Ubuntu to one
of my colleagues.
> Forgive my desparate amateurism. Save us.
It's all good! There is no such thing as an amatuer in marketing. We
are all consumers!
Hi all
I have been following the discussion here (and elsewhere) about "what is
GNOME" and "Who are our customers (Target Markets)" for some time now.
I'm wondering if it's time for some new ways of thinking about these
questions. Try this for size:
GNOME is a network organisation that interact
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 16:36 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
> > You are absolutely right. That's what i am always saying. We need
> > GNOME out there. Either we should make out own distribution or ...
>
> for the love of god, no :)
>
> creating and maintaining and supporting a distro is an enourmous
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 02:28 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
> It's done: I've read [almost] every single comment from the 2.12
> release articles (including Slashdot and OSNews, which Travis was
> going to cover... sorry Travis, I got carried away), and here's the
> compiled list of complaints/suggesti
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