wgo L10n worflow

2006-07-25 Thread Quim Gil
Danilo and Murray have made clear at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/CmsRequirements that PO files and revision control for translations is a must. This helps approaching the right CMS since it is not a feature not ready out of the box. I've sent those questions to the developers / people that subm

Re: Experiences with these CMSs

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Wood
Gergely Nagy wrote: > Do I mean the current system for managing content? Yes :) > > On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 01:32 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: >> wgo is currently maintained via CVS/SVN editing the pages directly. No >> CMS involved. Do you mean checking the requirements against the current >> system? No

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:11:44 +0100 (BST) Paul Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At the risk provoking a further rant, I suggest having a look at the > latest SuitWatch from Doc Searls, > > http://lists.ssc.com/pipermail/suitwatch/attachments/20060720/b35fd219/attachment.cc > > wherein

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm wrote: > If Doc Searls' thesis about the viability of traditional marketing is > correct, why are OSS projects that care about this traditional > marketing more successful than those who not? I think you have the cart and the horse in the wrong order there. What has h

Re: CEBIT Expo 2006 GNOME Booth

2006-07-25 Thread Baris Cicek
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 15:29 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > > Hi Murray; > > > > There's a possibility that we might have a GNOME Booth at CEBIT Eurasia, > > and we might need GNOME Event Box for that event. > > > > Expo is 5 days long, and it's possible that we will there for 5 days. > > Expo start

Re: CEBIT Expo 2006 GNOME Booth

2006-07-25 Thread Murray Cumming
> On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 15:29 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: >> > Hi Murray; >> > >> > There's a possibility that we might have a GNOME Booth at CEBIT >> Eurasia, >> > and we might need GNOME Event Box for that event. >> > >> > Expo is 5 days long, and it's possible that we will there for 5 days. >>

Map of gnome.org content

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Wood
Here is a draft map of the current wgo structure: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/CurrentWgoStructure It was generated by running `tree -L 3 -d -I "CVS"` over the gnomeweb-wml module. I will try to create a new version over the actual website directory as soon as gnomeweb-wml is actually buildab

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, Dave! Open Source is useful in a number of ways but there's no need to exaggerate its influence, especially not because some projects re-invented a known wheel after they threw the existing one away. As a very simple example: Traditional marketing theory tells you to care about the distributi

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Santiago Roza
On 7/25/06, Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never really understood why so many people seem to listen to Doc > Searls. Maybe, that's because he tells geeks what they would like to > hear? yes, exactly. we geeks love to hear these optimistic things about supposed geeky "revolutio

cms performance

2006-07-25 Thread Gergely Nagy
It just occurred to me, we have to consider CMS performance. Are there numbers how many hits we get on wgo? Perhaps we need some caching requirements for the dynamically served pages? Greg -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-li

Re: cms performance

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Gergely, http://XXX.gnome.org/stats works for www, developer, planet and foundation. We could probably have this done for selected others too (live, mail, ...?) - we just need to ask. Cheers, Dave. Gergely Nagy wrote: > It just occurred to me, we have to consider CMS performance. Are there >

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm wrote: > Open Source is useful in a number of ways but there's no need to > exaggerate its influence, especially not because some projects > re-invented a known wheel after they threw the existing one away. Free software has changed the way software is produced - that is

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi Dave, On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:54:36 +0200 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Firefox, by the way, was not a product of marketing. It was the > product of the will of two people, made possible by the fact that > it's free software. There was no market analysis, someone said "going

Re: Experiences with these CMSs

2006-07-25 Thread Jeff Waugh
> I still don't think we should rule out a good build system that creates > static pages. Agree, and current system can be improved significantly to remove a bunch of the autofoo problems (having to specify files to publish, updating fifteen different places when adding a new directory, etc). I'

Re: Experiences with these CMSs

2006-07-25 Thread Jeff Waugh
> The decision must be made also having in mind the context for next > releases. Aspects as user integration with other web tools we are using, > integration of eCommerce/donation system and CRM tool are also relevant. Neither of those things (including the CMS itself) has to be part of how we a

Re: Experiences with these CMSs

2006-07-25 Thread Quim Gil
El dt 25 de 07 del 2006 a les 11:27 +0100, en/na Thomas Wood va escriure: > I still don't think we should rule > out a good build system that creates static pages. As Greg requests, can the people in favor of keeping the current system make an evaluation of the requirements, as we are doing with