As long as the apps are open source, I think that would still end in
goodness. If the approach works, we could work on advantages to the versions
running on GNOME/Linux. Interoperability with other open source apps, the
desktop, etc.
Stormy
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Claus Schwarm wrote:
>
"Jens W. Klein" writes:
> The project to implement www.gnome.org needs reanimation.
>
> I try to summarize:
>
> Plone people who want to help (please define your role):
> * Jens Klein (coordination and technical work, participate at sprint)
> * Ross Patterson (take some technical tasks, ...)
> *
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>
> Speaking of which, we do very little (if anything?) to advertise GNOME
> apps. I think users pick operating systems based on apps. They have a task,
> they pick an app. They don't decide to use Windows or Linux or Mac, they
> decide to us
If any of my formulations appear to be impolite, I apologize. Yes, I think
you misread my email.
All successful non-profit ads I remember appeal to the viewers emotion:
pity, sympathy, compassion, mercy. Of course, an emotional campaign about
"freedom" would be possible. But that's advertising for
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:34 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> Stormy Peters wrote:
> > Speaking of which, we do very little (if anything?) to advertise GNOME
> > apps. I think users pick operating systems based on apps. They have a
> > task, they pick an app. They don't decide to use Windows or Lin
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 00:42 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote:
> Shaun,
>
> you're arguing against a straw man. Nobody said, it's an either/or
> scenario. Nobody said we should drop communicating what GNOME's about
> completely. Nobody said anybody should drop his or her values. It's
> only in your head.
Brian,
I guess that answer was directed to me. ;)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Brian Cameron wrote:
>
> That is simply not true. Because GNOME is free, the software is far
> less expensive than other proprietary solutions.
You may have misunderstood the point. Writing
"GNOME's access
Shaun,
you're arguing against a straw man. Nobody said, it's an either/or scenario.
Nobody said we should drop communicating what GNOME's about completely.
Nobody said anybody should drop his or her values. It's only in your head.
However, in my simple opinion with over 10 years in marketing-rela
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
How dare you steal my idea. ;) j/k I had thought about the app
store, but I'm convinced that it won't work if we keep it "just
GNOME". It won't work until you involve distros/KDE/XFCE and
completely centralize everything into one place to get cool apps
regardless of
We could just list desktop apps that are free and open source.
Stormy
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> How dare you steal my idea. ;) j/k I had thought about the app store, but
> I'm convinced that it won't work if we keep it "just GNOME". It won't work
> until you
How dare you steal my idea. ;) j/k I had thought about the app store, but
I'm convinced that it won't work if we keep it "just GNOME". It won't work
until you involve distros/KDE/XFCE and completely centralize everything into
one place to get cool apps regardless of desktop. Linux desktop marke
That's a great idea!
We could highlight one on gnome.org and you could click through to the whole
catalog.
Stormy
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> Stormy Peters wrote:
>
>> Speaking of which, we do very little (if anything?) to advertise GNOME
>> apps. I think users pic
Stormy Peters wrote:
Speaking of which, we do very little (if anything?) to advertise GNOME
apps. I think users pick operating systems based on apps. They have a
task, they pick an app. They don't decide to use Windows or Linux or
Mac, they decide to use Photoshop or Gimp or iTunes.
An idea me
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alex Hudson wrote:
>
> I think my main concern is that trying to out-Windows Windows is basically
> a losing argument: they have a monopoly on the market, and it's locked in
> effectively by network effects. No matter how much better GNOME is virtually
> all aspec
Alex:
Just to be clear; I absolutely agree with that. I'm not saying it's not
worth making that kind of statement, or that it's worth telling people
about the accessibility - in fact, I think those are hugely important
messages. I just don't think it's going to get close to swaying most
people,
Brian Cameron wrote:
While I agree with the sentiment, the situation is that for most people
Windows is gratis.
Yes, it is a challenging situation.
I would put it in stronger terms than that :D
With the economy in the situation its in, perhaps people might be more
interested in saving money
Alex:
While I agree with the sentiment, the situation is that for most people
Windows is gratis.
Yes, it is a challenging situation.
Most people factor the cost of software into the initial acquisition
cost. The cost of office for non-corporates isn't huge. I honestly think
the cost argumen
Brian Cameron wrote:
Shaun:
To be frank, these are no benefits. For a potential user, it begs the
question: "Why should I care whether GNOME3 is "free", "accessible" or
"usable"?
That is simply not true. Because GNOME is free, the software is far
less expensive than other proprietary solution
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 12:45 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
> Shaun:
Brian, everything you replied to is what Claus said.
I'm in total agreement with you.
> >>> I think we need to think about why we want end-users to use GNOME
> >> 3.0. Or why we want them
> >>> to use GNOME at all. Those are the mes
Shaun:
I think we need to think about why we want end-users to use GNOME
3.0. Or why we want them
to use GNOME at all. Those are the messages we can market. (And we
know these, freedom,
accessibility, usability, etc.)
To be frank, these are no benefits. For a potential user, it begs the
qu
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 17:42 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. A few remarks:
>
> Benefits:
> =
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Stormy Peters
> wrote:
>
> > I think we need to think about why we want end-users to use GNOME
> 3.0. Or why we want them
> > to use G
Thanks for the feedback. A few remarks:
Benefits:
=
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
> I think we need to think about why we want end-users to use GNOME 3.0. Or
why we want them
> to use GNOME at all. Those are the messages we can market. (And we know
these, freedom
The Miro project is doing some good marketing.
Here's there adopt a line of code campaign:
https://www.getmiro.com/adopt/
They are the ones that have the Amazon Affiliates Firefox widget.
Stormy
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