Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List"Petition for referendum)

2009-12-17 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 16:52, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > I've been on the marketing-list for a pretty good while, and I notice that > this seems to be the very first occasion on which either Mr. Terjan or Mr. > Peters have felt impelled to share their views with the rest of us. > > How long have you tw

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List"Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > Maybe you should introduce yourselves, boys? Isn't "boys" a bit condescending? Or is this just my different cultural background interpreting it that way? Anyway, I'll "assume people mean well...", so here it is: If I remember correctly I probably joined this list someti

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
I'd like to volunteer.. now that I've finished school and rightly graduated I have more time for GNOME. I can get media trained. I've done some work with media but mostly writing press releases for GUADEC in 2006 I believe. Let me know. sri On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Paul Cutler wrote:

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > We could also run a half day speaker's workshop, which I'd be happy to > lead, to get people presenting better (the same as they do in OSCON - > with Damien Conway no less). > > There is a tentatively planned marketing hackfest for March/April with > rega

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > > I could _possibly_ put together a quick media training session, on the > order > > of 90 minutes or so, but--for better or worse--it's the kind of thing > that > > needs to be done face-to-face: I can't do it either on the phone or via > > em

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List"Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
Not to take away from the scintillating discussion of the relative merits of various email options available, as a final post (and I'll probably continue to monitor the list, but don't intend to participate any further or support any future GNOME marketing efforts), I'm curious about something. I'

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Pascal Terjan wrote: > I agree, but publicly stating that the mailer provided by GNOME is « buggy and > unreliable, and makes it pretty much impossible for me to get work done » > would > not be something I expect from someone in this role. That gives a nice quote > to > journalists... I ad

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Stormy Peters
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Pascal Terjan wrote: > Stormy Peters gnome.org> writes: > > > I also think we should keep in mind that many people in our community are > part > > of GNOME for different reasons. Not to speak for Lefty, but he's probably > here > > because of GNOME Mobile. If he'

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Paul Cutler
Let's please not derail this thread with a discussion of mail clients. I don't think anyone talking to the media would ever phrase it that way to begin with. Let's keep this on topic about spokespeople. Thanks! Paul On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Pascal Terjan wrote: > Stormy Peters gnome

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Pascal Terjan
Stormy Peters gnome.org> writes: > I also think we should keep in mind that many people in our community are part > of GNOME for different reasons. Not to speak for Lefty, but he's probably here > because of GNOME Mobile. If he's media trained, has experience speaking with > the media and wants

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > (On the subject of active-ness, has anyone given any thought to things like > attempting to chase down industry analyst-types at places like ABI, IDC, > etc., in order to present GNOME and where it stands in the industry? When I > talk about LiMo to analysts, which I do wi

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > On the vaguely related note of "stuff we discussed at GUADEC but haven't > done much about", the point was raised on the foundation-list by Miguel that > we don't have a line-up of representatives to respond to press stories such > as the recent coverage of the set-to on t

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List"Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > Actually, maybe you should simply remove me from this list, Paul, and I'll > leave you nice folks to your own devices, and turn my efforts to other, more > productive things. I'm done catering to other people's litmus tests, thanks, > and if my assistance here isn't welcom

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Stormy Peters
I also think we should keep in mind that many people in our community are part of GNOME for different reasons. Not to speak for Lefty, but he's probably here because of GNOME Mobile. If he's media trained, has experience speaking with the media and wants to help out, we should not turn him down! T

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Frederic Peters wrote: > > I cited Evolution as it is the program to send emails (and more) > developed in the GNOME project; and this shows in email headers. > Just like I wouldn't like us to send press releases in Microsoft > Word format. Uses the GNOME desktop,

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Paul Cutler
Sorry, been buried at work and just catching up with all the threads. I've had media training at a past employer and will be at SCALE. Stormy has a contact at the Apache Foundation as well who can provide media training, if SCALE doesn't work out, we may want to think about a press team hackfest

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List"Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
Actually, maybe you should simply remove me from this list, Paul, and I'll leave you nice folks to your own devices, and turn my efforts to other, more productive things. I'm done catering to other people's litmus tests, thanks, and if my assistance here isn't welcome, then I withdraw it, with apol

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Stormy Peters wrote: > > It may just be me but I would be way more confortable with a GNOME > > Foundation spokeperson if s/he used the GNOME Desktop, and especially > > Evolution to send emails; as I believe this adds the necessary level > > of credibility. > > > > I think they should use the GNO

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > >>> I could _possibly_ put together a quick media training session, on the order >>> of 90 minutes or so, but--for better or worse--it's the kind of thing that >>> needs to be done face-to-face: I can't do it either on the phone or via >>> emai

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
On 12/16/09 5:56 AM, "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier" wrote: > > I think there's a page on the GNOME site with a list of PR contacts here: > > http://www.gnome.org/press/ > > It does need to be updated, I passed some info on to Stormy and I > think she's passed that on to the right parties. Yeah, tha

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > On the vaguely related note of "stuff we discussed at GUADEC but haven't > done much about", the point was raised on the foundation-list by Miguel that > we don't have a line-up of representatives to respond to press stories such > as the recen

Re: Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > Actually, this is something I'd suggested in the Marketing BoF at the last > GUADEC: GNOME needs people who (ideally) have been media trained, have > appropriate contacts, and are willing and able to talk to press > representatives when needed. I volunteered to be one, I

Foundation Spokespeople (was FW: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum)

2009-12-16 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
On the vaguely related note of "stuff we discussed at GUADEC but haven't done much about", the point was raised on the foundation-list by Miguel that we don't have a line-up of representatives to respond to press stories such as the recent coverage of the set-to on that list over Planet GNOME. Thi