Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-10-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Santiago Roza a écrit : > maybe because we didn't have any benchmarks available, i guess. how > could we have them for future releases? The Evolution guys had (and sent us) benchmarks, Federico Mena, Ben Maurer, Cecilia Gonzalez Alvarez, Phillip van Hoof, Behdad Esfahbod... all of these p

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:40:43 +0200 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK - it's clear that you're saying all these things to people other > than those who should be hearing it. > Ehm, pardon? You started talking about the *vision* and how the marketing team is supposed to handle things a

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Claus Schwarm a écrit : > Can you provide a rationale why do you think the time of developers is > so much more valuable than anybody else's time? > I was just talking about efficient organization: to minimize the work > load for everybody, some agreements need to be taken care of. So, if

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, a few notes: On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:24:03 +0200 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So yes, I think it is important for people interested in > promoting GNOME (and particularly release notes writers) be aware of > it. There's a difference between being 'aware of it' and following it cl

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's a lot of stuff people talk about on pgo. > What do you think? > > That release notes writers have nothing better to > do than taking notes > > about stuff developers say somewhere on the > Internet? > > Well, it's my primary news source to k

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, I'm feeling some aggression and defensiveness here which I'm going to put down to cultural differences. I will say, though, that we all have a part to play in improving things, and I think that this could have been addressed better if I'd brought it up before the release (mea culpa). Clau

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Quim Gil
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 09:21 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > If there's one thing I regret it's that we didn't push this release as > "The big performance push" To me this is simply a proof that the release notes process followed until now is either outdated or broken. The people who took over the 2.16

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm a écrit : > This is what could be made after feedback from a helpful Evolution > developer. Read it and ask yourself how many people are really > affected by these improvements. I'm not sure whether that would have > been sufficient to produce the headlines you're thinking

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, Dave! On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:19:36 +0200 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem with that page is: > 1. technical focus, rather than user focus ("here are operations > which are faster", rather than "Here are high-level usecases which > are faster") > 2. The language is prett

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Murray Cumming
> I'm sorry I didn't bring this up before the release, when it would have > been more useful. Let's just learn the lesson, and make sure our finger > is on the pulse next time, and give kudos where it's due. Gathering, sorting, and presenting the release information takes a lot of time and effort.

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:21:34 +0200 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To my mind that is definitely a bigger "feature" than "we will have > more eye candy in future releases thanks to optional XGL support in > Metacity". > Note that a performance page was written. It looked like this:

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Murray Cumming a écrit : >> I'm sorry I didn't bring this up before the release, when it would have >> been more useful. Let's just learn the lesson, and make sure our finger >> is on the pulse next time, and give kudos where it's due. > > Gathering, sorting, and presenting the release information

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Santiago Roza a écrit : > maybe because we didn't have any benchmarks available, i guess. how > could we have them for future releases? The Evolution guys had (and sent us) benchmarks, Federico Mena, Ben Maurer, Cecilia Gonzalez Alvarez, Phillip van Hoof, Behdad Esfahbod... all of these peo

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Quim Gil a écrit : > Good bits in GNOME 2.16 > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/2031230 > > Not yet del.icio.us user, sorry. Gah. "some minor feature enhancements"? If there's one thing I regret it's that we didn't push this release as "The big performance push" - there was a wealth

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Santiago Roza
On 9/26/06, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there's one thing I regret it's that we didn't push this release as > "The big performance push" ... maybe because we didn't have any benchmarks available, i guess. how could we have them for future releases? i mean what to measure, with w

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-25 Thread Quim Gil
Good bits in GNOME 2.16 http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/2031230 Not yet del.icio.us user, sorry. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://pinguino.tv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gno

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-13 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Reinhout, Are you a del.icio.us user? Fancy tagging it gnome216? Cheers, Dave. Reinout van Schouwen wrote: > Op ma, 11-09-2006 te 22:32 -0300, schreef Santiago Roza: >> these are the sources i found so far: >> feel free to add more... > > http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44305/Nieuwe-versie-Gnome

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-12 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
Op ma, 11-09-2006 te 22:32 -0300, schreef Santiago Roza: > these are the sources i found so far: > feel free to add more... http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44305/Nieuwe-versie-Gnome-ziet-het-levenslicht.html (Dutch) regards, -- Reinout van Schouwen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@g

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-11 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Santiago, If you are a del.icio.us user, then please bookmark these with the tag gnome216 (you can use more than one tag if you like, but please include that one). I think I got these three, but there's no harm in having pages bookmarked more than once. I haven't seen any Spanish articles boo

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-11 Thread Santiago Roza
these are the sources i found so far: http://slashdot.org/articles/06/09/07/0240207.shtml http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20060905.ars http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6261033378.html feel free to add more... -- Santiago Roza [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing lis

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Santiago, Santiago Roza wrote: > i don't know about the "young" or "bright" parts :P, but i can do the > review compiling thing again (i did it for 2.12), in case you guys are > ok with that. Thanks for the offer - that would be wonderful. It's a lot of work for one person if we do it right,

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-07 Thread Santiago Roza
On 9/7/06, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, this > will be a database of information for some young bright spark with some > time who would like to analyse all the reviews and slashdot comments > later on, and make some concrete suggestions based on those comments and > reviews to th

Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, We need to improve how we push out announcements like the announcement of the release - while we're waiting for a nice CRM which lets us mass-mail all the journalists we know, we need to do it by hand. For each journalist that you know, you might want to drop them a friendly note saying