On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna
> wrote:
> >> I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
> >> chiming in and supporting
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
>> chiming in and supporting it.
>
> That might tell you something right there.
>
> GNOME 3.0 might
"Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Jason D. Clinton
wrote:
> >> And how was I not constructive?
> >
> > Stop this.
>
> No, really - how was what I wrote non-constructive? I didn't flame
> anybody - I wasn't rude, I expressed my view of the situation
> currently.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
>> And how was I not constructive?
>
> Stop this.
No, really - how was what I wrote non-constructive? I didn't flame
anybody - I wasn't rude, I expressed my view of the situation
currently.
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On Aug 8, 2011 11:44 AM, "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier"
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Allan Day wrote:
> > I have no problem with criticism. All I ask is that it's done in a
> > constructive manner.
>
> And how was I not constructive?
Stop this.
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On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Allan Day wrote:
> I have no problem with criticism. All I ask is that it's done in a
> constructive manner.
And how was I not constructive?
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fit." ~ Randall Munroe (xkcd)
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeie
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, pec...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > If dissenting voices has nothing to offer than "it is all wrong, I
> > will go with product x", then it is not even worth to bother, because
> > all it does it creates f
Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
> And this thread is already pointing out that we don't seem to want
> to hear dissenting opinions, only those that rave and glorify. That's not
> exactly productive in my opinion.
Thanks for twisting my words. I write that Joe wasn't being helpful
and now I'm stifling di
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 11:11 -0500, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, pec...@gmail.com wrote:
> > If dissenting voices has nothing to offer than "it is all wrong, I
> > will go with product x", then it is not even worth to bother, because
> > all it does it creates
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, pec...@gmail.com wrote:
> If dissenting voices has nothing to offer than "it is all wrong, I
> will go with product x", then it is not even worth to bother, because
> all it does it creates flame wars like this. There is constructive
> criticism (bug reports, writt
Hi all.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
chiming in and supporting it.
That might tell you something right there.
GNOME 3.0 might be awesomesauce for new users, but it doesn't seem to
be strikin
2011/8/8 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier :
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Allan Day wrote:
>> Anywho, this isn't a helpful comment. This list is for marketing GNOME.
>
> So, marketing GNOME means hearing no dissenting voices. Got it. Thanks
> for being very clear on that point.
If dissenting voices h
2011/8/8 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier :
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
>> chiming in and supporting it.
>
> That might tell you something right there.
>
> GNOME 3.0 might be awesomesauce for new user
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Allan Day wrote:
> Anywho, this isn't a helpful comment. This list is for marketing GNOME.
So, marketing GNOME means hearing no dissenting voices. Got it. Thanks
for being very clear on that point.
--
"Our brains just have one scale, and we resize our experiences
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
>> chiming in and supporting it.
>
> That might tell you something right there.
Or it might not. It's virtually impossible to tell
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
> chiming in and supporting it.
That might tell you something right there.
GNOME 3.0 might be awesomesauce for new users, but it doesn't seem to
be striking a chord
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Karl Fischer wrote:
>
> Linus is Linus, even though we need to hear what all our users say and
> what their feedback is. All feedback is important.
> Sure Linus has influence, maybe we can leverage off this, to benefit
> project.
>
>
It isn't just Linus, it's Ted
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 18:56, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> The thing is, I want to also educate. Designing a desktop is a completely
> different space than kernel development and a lot of these kernel guys are
> trying to apply principles they learned hacking on the kernel to a user
> facing so
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:59, Allan Day wrote:
> Luc Pionchon wrote:
>> What about?
>> - be open
>> - listen to the feedback,
>> - don't give canned answers
>> - engage in constructive discussion,
>> - avoid derision
>> - show interest in feedback
>> - get to the facts;
>> - go to the source, tac
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Allan Day wrote:
> Luc Pionchon wrote:
> > What about?
> > - be open
> > - listen to the feedback,
> > - don't give canned answers
> > - engage in constructive discussion,
> > - avoid derision
> > - show interest in feedback
> > - get to the facts;
> > - go to the
Luc Pionchon wrote:
> What about?
> - be open
> - listen to the feedback,
> - don't give canned answers
> - engage in constructive discussion,
> - avoid derision
> - show interest in feedback
> - get to the facts;
> - go to the source, tackle rumors; what is it founded on?
> - if needed, go throug
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:40, Allan Day wrote:
> Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> We've been getting a slew of psots on G+ and in the press. Started by
>> Linus, has now caused a stampede of well known Linux kernel developers
>> feeling the need to reject Gnome 3 in public.
>>
>> Since the press
Hi all.
We've been getting a slew of psots on G+ and in the press. Started by
Linus, has now caused a stampede of well known Linux kernel developers
feeling the need to reject Gnome 3 in public.
Since the press now senses red meat, I wonder if we might be ready with
canned messages if at the D
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> We've been getting a slew of psots on G+ and in the press. Started by
> Linus, has now caused a stampede of well known Linux kernel developers
> feeling the need to reject Gnome 3 in public.
>
> Since the press now senses red meat, I wonder if we might be ready with
> c
We've been getting a slew of psots on G+ and in the press. Started by
Linus, has now caused a stampede of well known Linux kernel developers
feeling the need to reject Gnome 3 in public.
Since the press now senses red meat, I wonder if we might be ready with
canned messages if at the Desktop Summ
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