Support in new WGO structure

2006-09-21 Thread Joachim Noreiko
Quim, I really like the changes you've made to the new structure plan at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure My only concern is how deep down you've placed Support. I can see that Support is not worth a top-level link, because it's only a page of links to the forums and the mailing

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Gezim Hoxha
On Wed, 2006-09-08 at 20:36 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:01:23 +0200 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shouldn't be talking about navigation bars yet, but I'll try. This structure could bring us to a nav bar like this: [GNOME logo] Know - Try - Learn - Work -

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Baris Cicek
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 01:51 -0600, Gezim Hoxha wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-08 at 11:19 +0100, Joachim Noreiko wrote: snip My draft is just that, a draft, and only part of one at that. I'm trying to think in terms of paths through the site. My scenarios are these: * new to GNOME:

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:47:18 -0600 Gezim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also don't like Know for some reason. I think maybe because it sounds like there is some knowledge expected already or I can't quite pin down my dislike for Know. Get to know or Discover would work better, I think.

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
Ok, then. This looks good: [GNOME logo] Discover - Try - Learn - Create - Join I think Learn is in fact better, softer than study. You learn from life. A learning experience sounds positive and exciting. Study is always a conscious action, you don't study by accident. You can learn though just

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread John Williams
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 11:27 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: [GNOME logo] Discover - Try - Learn - Create - Join I think Learn is in fact better, softer than study. [snip] Anyway, I guess what counts here is to have the opinion of native English speakers. Hi! John the native English speaker here.

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Alex Hudson
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 22:07 +1200, John Williams wrote: I have come to this discussion late and am trawling through the archives to get some context. Forgive me if I say something silly ;-) Me too.. .. :) I really like the idea of using verbs instead of nouns in the navigational structure.

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
I still think Learn is better than Ask. Ask is good to reflect mail/forum/IRC, but shadows documentation. True, from Learn to 'support forums' there is a gap, but I think the meaning is better covered than using Ask. If we find the 'I want to ask something' use case is relevant we can have a

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Alex Hudson
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 13:04 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: I still think Learn is better than Ask. Ask is good to reflect mail/forum/IRC, but shadows documentation. True, from Learn to 'support forums' there is a gap, but I think the meaning is better covered than using Ask. I think Get Help covers

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 17:01 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: [GNOME logo] Know - Try - Learn - Work - Join - Enjoy! Know = About Try = Download Learn = Support Work = Development Join = Community Enjoy! = the Fresh show candy page suggested at

WGO structure

2006-08-10 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I've finished work on condensing the different drafts, and following some feedback from Quim, it's on the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure Note that the top-level section titles are not necessarily the navigation bar link phrases. I was thinking in terms of URLs rather than

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
El dj 10 de 08 del 2006 a les 15:17 +0200, en/na Gergely Nagy va escriure: Know = About Try = Download If we have to explain even to ourselves what these buzzwords mean, how do we expect the visitors to understand it? :) Hey Flanagan :) I wasn't explaining. Claus had asked for

Re: WGO structure

2006-08-10 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:55:51 +0100 (BST) Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've finished work on condensing the different drafts, and following some feedback from Quim, it's on the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure We cannot do it like this, IHMO. The

Re: WGO structure

2006-08-10 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The structure lacks a portal for third-party developers: This is GNOME's most important product. The desktop has no real selling points unless lots of third-party dev's use the dev. platform. Fair enough. Could you add something to the plan for

wgo structure

2006-08-09 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't get me wrong. I think most points of the former proposal are valid and should be kept in the current wgo revamp. See http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure , I'm asking for selecting and merging. Why don't you work together with

Re: wgo structure

2006-08-09 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:19:18 +0100 (BST) Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None taken :) Thanks. :-) I'm trying to think in terms of paths through the site. My scenarios are these: * new to GNOME: about, why choose, tour, screenshots * new users: tour, link to library, link to