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This is all very interesting, but comrades can be sure that many lawyers in Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Cuba -- and, on the other side, in Washington -- are working hard on all the legal angles and implications involved. And of course, the foreign offices and military forces in all of the above, and quite probably many others, are also devoting considerable resources to the strategic and other implications. That there is no easy resolution in international law or strategy is illustrated by the plight of Julian Assange and Ecuador, in whose London embassy he has long been trapped -- so long, in fact, that it is possible that the Ecuadorian consul who unilaterally issued Snowden the travel document to Moscow might have been under the influence of the "Stockholm syndrome," the complicity that often afflicts those confined with each other against their will or preferences for long periods. Assange apparently convinced him to issue the document out of mutual concern that Snowden's life was in imminent danger in Hong Kong. But getting from Moscow to Caracas or elsewhere is a quite different matter, now that his location and status are notorious. If a number of European countries were prepared to risk the life of the president of Bolivia, at the behest of Washington, will they show any greater concern for Snowden, whose disclosures moreover are now revealing their own involvement in illegal spying? Richard -----Original Message----- From: marxism-bounces+rfidler_8=sympatico...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+rfidler_8=sympatico...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu ] On Behalf Of Sheldon Ranz Sent: July-08-13 11:39 AM To: rfidle...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Marxism] Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela all offer Snowden asylu m ====================================================================== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ====================================================================== Why can't the Russians simply take Snowden to the Venezuelan embassy in Moscow? S Ranz On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Jim Farmelant <farmela...@juno.com> wrote: > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > > > The real problem would be for Snowden to get a flight from Moscow to the > receiving nation that will not be interfered with by the United States. As > I said before, the only scenario that I can envision where that could work > out , would be for him to fly to the receiving nation on a Russian > aircraft, with the Russian stipulating that any attempt by the US to > interfere with the flight would be treated as an act of war. At this > point, I cannot conceive of Russia risking World War Three over Snowden. > > Jim Farmelant > http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant > http://www.foxymath.com > Learn or Review Basic Math > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Gulf Mann <gulfm...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Marxism] Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela all offer Snowden > asylum > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:37:23 -0500 > > Why can't such nations prepare papers making Snowden an "honorary citizen" > &/or papers granting him immediate assylum, deliver them directly to him in > the Moscow airport, and walk with him to a waiting plane to carry him to > the receiving nation? This will require a novel procedure for sure, but a > legally not unreasonable one to deal with a novel situation. > > > ____________________________________________________________ > 30-second trick for a flat belly > This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51dad1f01eda051ef4846st04vuc > > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/sranz18%40gmail .com > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/rfidler_8%40sym patico.ca ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
