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That's a great scene.

There's one guy saying Latinos in the U.S. are treated like Blacks, "spics."

Then a professorial Marxist takes the floor who says that underdevelopment is a wrong idea or term or something like that, because the clash between US imperialism and Asia, Africa and Latin America isn't the fundamental contradiction, but rather the contradiction between the impetuous development of the forces of production and the forms and relations of production of capitalism, in other words between socialism and the capitalist system.

To which another one of the panelists answers that stuff about the bourgeoisie and proletarians is right in the abstract, but when it comes down from the level of abstraction to the real world, it is transformed into war. So the fundamental contradiction is not, for example, between the European proletariat and the capitalists, but there where war has become the embodiment of contradiction and thereby shows that it is fundamental. For example Vietnam.

Except for the name of the country being attacked, it was like a debate on this list made into a movie.

There was, of course, a rather pointed political message in this exchange about whether socialism/capitalism or imperialism/the third world is the fundamental contradiction. When the movie was made in 1968 no one would have missed it. And some of us have still not forgotten it.

Joaquín


On Fri Jun 17 9:01 AM, Marce Cameron wrote:
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2141060852444135470>.
The scene begins 59 minutes, 19 seconds into the movie.


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