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WL, Don't apologize because this is exactly the kind of discussion I hoped to start: to examine the surface of American politics toward the goal of building a deep, long-range movement in America. I almost called this thread "Toward a Theory of Revolution (fundamental change) in America, but decided on the more general label of "21st Century American-style Socialism." It seems to me that there hasn't been a lot of really good comprehensive work of this kind in several decades, but I admit that I don't a have as close a relationship to the relevant literature as I once did. Nevertheless, fresh attempts are needed to identify the new forces or tendencies for revolution in America, as well as the counter-forces that function to preserve the status quo or worse. Your new post is a goldmine in this regard, so I will study it and get back to you asap? glenn > > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > > > I reread what I wrote and ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com