Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98: > > > The conflict, the difficulty in this restrained endorsement is that there is > simply, absent independent organization of the working class against the > war, any way to prevent a "

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == To sum up my view on this, all sorts of things can be compared by analogy, analogy b

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98: > > > So-- I know 8 or 9 years is a long time. I agree it's a long time. But > first principles and fundamental rules are supposed to be timeless, no? > They apply in all ages under all

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98: > > > Berlin has given > virtually nothing (Hegel is the sole exception) to our cultural and > spiritual heritage. How about David Bowie? Cheers, L.W. Lüko Willms Fra

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98: > > > Again, the war of 1870/71 > was not against the other German states but against France > which was used as a foil -- the bogeyman or lightning rod -- > to motivate everyone to mobil

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

t; Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance,Is Dead at 98 > > > There's no point in exchanging emails with people who don't read what you > write or read it as stating 180 degrees opposite of what it

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Marx and virtually everybody in the Marxist tradition saw the founding of an indepen

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Or as Dr. Johnson put it at the time, isn't it ironic that "the loudest yelps for li

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Ah, twentieth century Austria enters into this, now. Just what do you think "histor

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == That's why the Austrian Empire in this period was known as a "prison house of nation

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Actually, I don't have pretensions of speaking for anyone but myself. As artesian h

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == In this thread there seems to be a consistent meme: "Progressive" Berlin versus "R

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Look that's slander to the extent it suggests I supported the imperialist Great War

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == And how evolutionary was that? Actually, as artesian pointed out, that analysis

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The whole notion of "progressive" requires some careful rethinking-- the emerging G

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I fully appreciate the discomfort people feel with looking at the foundations of a u

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == No one is equating Moltke or even Bismarck with Hilter. Rather we are trying to und

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I never equated Hitler with Abraham Lincoln, just as I never would equate the Franc

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have a tendency to stick to the view of Marx and Engels on this issue. Equating H

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > > I tend to agree with artesian's take on this. The unification of Germany > by P

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Clear support from Marx and Engels? Here from the first manifesto written by Marx:

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I've just been watching von Moltke in that old BBC series "The Fall of Eagles." The

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Ah, yes, von Moltke. This is a strange General, indeed. As strange as the 1870/71

Re: [Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == For those who don't know, that ancestor being the General Moltke who commanded the v

[Marxism] Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is Dead at 98

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == NY Times, January 10, 2010 Freya von Moltke, Part of a Core of Nazi Resistance, Is D