Re: M-TH: Re: Market socialism the 90s

2000-03-31 Thread davidb
Rob and Chas, This discussion is a load of shit. Bolsheviks are not sectarian because they stand with the class in all of its struggles. SDs are sectarian because they substitute themselves for the proletariat, betray it, and generally shit on it as unable, incapable, unprepared etc for the

M-TH: Re: Market socialism the 90s

2000-03-29 Thread Hugh Rodwell
Hugh Rodwell wrote: If market socialism is such an attractive alternative, and vastly to be preferred to party dicatatorships, and capable of arising more or less spontaneously in periods of mass mobilization, then why a) did it not arise spontaneously in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet

M-TH: Re: Market socialism the 90s

2000-03-29 Thread Rob Schaap
Just a quickie while I watch Australia play the Czecg Republic (the latter lead 1-0 just after half-time in a cracking good match), Thinking about Hugh and Doug's latest posts, it occurs to me that market socialism may actually play a part in the mass mobilisation process itself (should one come

M-TH: Re: Market socialism the 90s

2000-03-29 Thread Hugh Rodwell
Michael P writes: Can't say I'm a very happy left social democrat, Why ever not? but in the absence, of a mass, radical democratic left, I'll take working in the less reality impaired precincts of the social democratic swamp. Try draining it. At least they have read and thought and