Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-08 Thread J.WALKER
Chris said that he we are going to have to learn how to use this proportional electoral system I predict over the next ten years a group will emerge that will put a more radical reasonably-coherent reformist position. I think the LSA already had put a radical reasonably-coherent reformist

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread Chris Burford
At 15:19 04/05/00 +, you wrote: Dear comrades, I have been quietly reading the Left press in relation to the London Election and Ken Livingstone London's Mayoral candidate which is happening today. A large section of the Trotskyist Left and the Marxist Leninist CPGB are backing Ken

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread J.WALKER
Chris replied: Proportional voting and tactical voting are becoming more important here. Although there are delays in the London counting, one result tonight shows massive tactical voting got the Conservative MP out in a Parliamentary by-election, with Labour voters switching to Liberal

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread David Welch
On Fri, 5 May 2000, J.WALKER wrote: My main argument (as I am not keen on just going over the old debates of anti-parliamentarianism) is that the Left in its opposition to New Labour either harks back to a false Golden Age of Old Labour which it cannot attain or cannot see beyond

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread J.WALKER
David wrote: Turnout in elections is certainly falling and will probably fall further at the next general election, but IMHO this represents not a rejection of the 'parliamentary road' than a rejection of the possibility of any kind of change. Yes I agree. I may actively abstain from

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread Chris Burford
At 13:24 05/05/00 +0100, you wrote: On Fri, 5 May 2000, Andy Lehrer wrote: The results thus far are disappointing. The LSA's only chance at an outright first-past-the-post seat, Ian Page, has not been elected and as for the "top-up" PR returns the LSA seems to be running between 2-3%