Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither away ?

2009-02-21 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:47:31 -0800 (PST) Charles Brown cdb1...@prodigy.net writes: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/02/social-collapse-best-practices.html Someone named Orlov says in the essay linked above: When the Soviet system went away, many people lost their jobs, everyone lost

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither away ?

2009-02-21 Thread juan De La Cruz
What is socialism?   ...we could start or continue our conversation having a clear and Communist understanding of socialism in this particular moment.  What do you think?  Let me know if you are interested so we could base our discussion on the soviet experience on  solid ground...materialist

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither away ?

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Brown
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com wrote: From: Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com The Socialist Workers Party (USA) has long been insistent that Russia remains a kind of workers state. Their formulations strike me as nutty, but I think that they have stumbled on

[Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Brown
What is socialism? ^ CB: Abolition of private property in the basic means of production. ^ ...we could start or continue our conversation having a clear and Communist understanding of socialism in this particular moment. What do you think? Let me know if you are interested so we

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither away ?

2009-02-21 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) Charles Brown cdb1...@prodigy.net writes: --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com wrote: From: Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com The Socialist Workers Party (USA) has long been insistent that Russia remains a kind of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither away ?

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Brown
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Jim Farmelant wrote: Well in Russia the state renationalized most of the energy industry several years ago. Putin, as president, went a long way towards reestablishing the leading role of the state in the management of Russia's economy. The state is a major

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did the Soviet state whither away ?

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Brown
Also, notice the Soviet state did not kill a lot of people when it went away. That's another characteristic of the process that fits the term whither. Away not with a bang but a whimper. CB --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com wrote: From: Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com

[Marxism-Thaxis] Review of Sokal's Beyond the Hoax

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Brown
[Marxism] Brilliant review of Alan Sokal's Beyond the Hoax To: arch...@xx Subject: [Marxism] Brilliant review of Alan Sokal's Beyond the Hoax From: Louis Proyect l...@x Date: Tue, 17

[Marxism-Thaxis] Sokal: law as a heuristic for natual science

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Brown
Hoax and Reality Jerold Touger Suppose I am asked to pick a number from 1 to 99,999,999,999. I claim to have a method for getting it right on the first try despite seemingly insuperable odds. If I then proceed to do so, it gives my claim enormous credibility. If others claiming the same

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Review of Sokal's Beyond the Hoax

2009-02-21 Thread Ralph Dumain
I thought Proyect hated Sokal. The review is hardly brilliant but it is to the point. I am sure Sokal got all his information about India from Meera Nanda, who has written numerous books and articles on the subject. I haven't read Sokal's books, though I have always been in sympathy with his