Marxists "should" be interested in mass "phenonomena", mass culture,
mass consciousness of many forms. Adorno may have been "wrong" about
popular music and culture (smile), but he wasn't "wrong" to
"investigate" popular music and culture vis-a-vis working class mass
consciousness. That was not a project irrelevant to Marxism.

Socialist realist aesthetics concerns itself with working class
highlife, play, fun, life _outside_ of work, because in reality
workers have life outside of work. Work hard, play hard.

See Marxist Thaxis discussions from circa 1998 -2000 on need for
Marxists to learn about working class partying, music, arts
,recreation, relaxation. See Angela Davis book on women blues singers,
and the African American music tradition as blues tradition. See
discussion of relationship between modern popular music and this blues
tradition. See discussions of "relevance" of this and relationships
between women and men , as well as Black culture and Black/White
relations ( on Marxism - Thaxis)



See relationship between Communists of the 30's and 40's and jazz
musicians such as Billie Holiday and Charlie Parker.

Consider concerns of Sidney Finkelstein on these issues

Sidney Finkelstein
Birth/Death: July 4, 1909 — January 14, 1974.
Sidney Finkelstein was born in Brooklyn, New York on July 4, 1909,
studied at City College in New York, and did graduate work at Columbia
University and New York University. In the 1930s he was a book
reviewer for the Brooklyn Daily Eagle and worked for the United States
Postal Service. In the 1940s he joined the music staff of the Herald
Tribune and was also a music reviewer for New Masses, Masses, and
Mainstream. Between 1951 and 1973 he worked for Vanguard Records,
specializing in jazz and classical recordings. As an author he was
most noted for a number of books that brought a socialist realist
perspective to the arts, partricularly Jazz, a People's Music, in
1948. Finkelstein died in Brooklyn on January 14, 1974.

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Also, it is not the Marxist position on philosophy and art  to ignore
bourgeois philosophies and arts, but to consider especially
progressive bourgeois and petit bourgeois thinkers and artists as
capable of giving great insight on mass thinking . The textbook
example on this is Marx liked to read Flaubert or some other French
novelist who was a reactionary politically, because even reactionary
artists can have useful insights for the cause of the working class,
and otherwise in terms of understanding humanity and society.


And always remember: The Soviet Union is your friend.



On 7/17/09, c b <cb31...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Listen up better. In brief,  Michael Jackson who had the "ears" of
> millions sought to unite Black and White. Any _Marxist_ in the United
> States who is not concerned about this issue is not a Marxist. Are you
> a "Marxist" or what ?
>
> Pay attention and respond to that.
>
> On 7/16/09, Karl Dallas <karldal...@f2s.com> wrote:
> > And the relevance of this stuff about aa deluded young pop star and a
> > 19th Century horror author to the subject of this list (which, I seem
> > to recall, once was Marxism) would be what, exactly?
> >
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