[Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread c b
Shane Mage Waistline2 at aol.com wrote: > > Attacking the "ultra right" is nothing more than a clever way of > demanding > unconditional support of the Obama administration Exactly. ^ CB: A point upon which sec

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread Waistline2
II. How is the new logic against the poor - destitute proletarians, being expressed? The health Care debates are instructive. Over and over older workers rallying against a single payer system - on Medicare, are asked why they oppose single payer. "I do not want government control over

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:59 PM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: > > Attacking the "ultra right" is nothing more than a clever way of > demanding > unconditional support of the Obama administration Exactly. Shane Mage > This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it > always was and is and shall be:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread Ralph Dumain
Well, at a very quick reading, I got a general idea of the correlation of forces delineated by Waistline, though I will have to study this again. But I don't understand how attacking the right = unconditional support for Obama. At 01:51 PM 8/13/2009, c b wrote: >Shane Mage > >--

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread Waistline2
> Attacking the "ultra right" is nothing more than a clever way of > demanding unconditional support of the Obama administration Exactly. ^ CB: A point upon which sectarians/ultra-lefts, whether Stalinist or Trotskyist, can agree. Comment 1). It was in fact the Clinton Administrati

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread Shane Mage
>> >> >> Attacking the "ultra right" is nothing more than a clever way of >> demanding >> unconditional support of the Obama administration > > Exactly. > > ^ > CB: A point upon which sectarians/ultra-lefts, whether Stalinist or > Trotskyist, can agree. A record--four(!) stupid insults in o

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/13/2009 1:51:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: A point upon which sectarians/ultra-lefts, whether Stalinist or Trotskyist, can agree. Comment Name calling is fine. What the proletarian fighters coming to the fore need is understanding and