Issue 89 of INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM JOURNAL Published Winter 2000 Copyright
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A comment on Tailism and the Dialectic
MARK O'BRIEN
http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj89/obrien.htm
This is the best review I've seen to date.
V: The prime pre-conditions for developments of tradition and culture are in
the development of human interaction with nature (the forces of production),
but these are subject to changes initiated by developments in social
relations (of which class is only one of a diversity of significant
Victor:
While Lukacs regards the universality of the dialectic as a function of
their inherency in the material world as such, Ilyenkov treats this
universality as a function of human interaction with the nature, a product
of the unity of human activity and nature in practice.
CB:
CB: Importantly, the dialectic of history is that changes in the mode of
human interaction with nature determine changes in history, that is, the
whole of a people's tradition. The developments of tradition and culture
initiate in the dialectic of economic classes.
WL: The developments
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A Defence of History and Class Consciousness: Tailism and the Dialectic
Ralph Dumain rdumain at igc.org
A Defence of History and Class Consciousness: Tailism and the Dialectic, by
Georg Lukács; translated by Esther Leslie, with an introduction by John
Rees and a postface by Slavoj Zizek. London; New York: Verso, 2000. 182
pp. (Lukacs' ms: pp. 45-149.)
II.
At 03:09 PM 11/16/2005 -0500, Charles Brown wrote:
Entrapment within immediacy becomes firmer if
experiment is used as a 'category of knowledge of society and history'. for
the methodological precision of experiment gets lost, and the contemplative
attitude comes to the fore: i.e. political
Ralph Dumain
^^^
A few remarks here. It seems you are making a play on words in altering the
meaning of the epistemological term thing-for-us to mean
utilitarian-uses-for-me/them/us. The result is a confusion of arguments.
^^^
CB: What is the confusion of arguments ?
Things-for-us in
A Defence of History and Class Consciousness: Tailism and the Dialectic, by
Georg Lukács; translated by Esther Leslie, with an introduction by John
Rees and a postface by Slavoj Zizek. London; New York: Verso, 2000. vii,
182 pp.
Lukacs lost ms. comes to 100 pages (45-149) of text nestled
Issue 89 of INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM JOURNAL Winter 2000
A comment on Tailism and the Dialectic
MARK O'BRIEN
http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj89/obrien.htm
Issue 86 of INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM JOURNAL Spring 2000
In defence of Marxism
A review of Georg Lukács, A Defence of 'History and
When I first received this book, I perused the various commentaries by its
various contributors other than Lukacs, without reading Lukacs' own
text. Now I've done just the opposite, reading Lukacs sans the
commentaries (pp. 45-150).
Many of you will recall the trajectory I've been following,
Ralph Dumain:
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(4) takes on Engels' remarks about Kant, the dialectics of nature, and the
role of the scientific experimenter within the total social process.
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Would you mind elaborating on this ?
Charles
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4. For us and for itself
CB: I use thing-for-us and thing-in-itself
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When I first received this book, I perused the various commentaries by its
various contributors other than Lukacs, without reading Lukacs' own
text. Now I've done just the opposite, reading Lukacs sans the
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