[Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread Phil Walden
Ah, well done Ralph you have reminded me that the Fredric Jameson book is actually entitled "Postmodernism: or, the cultural logic of late capitalism". Utterly brilliant. Have people on this list got the point about postmodernism not being a policy (which can easily be reversed) but rather being

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread CeJ
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2008-March/date.html PW, if you want to see if something comes through before it appears in the 'digest' of the mailing list (or do you get individual mails?), try the archive, it usually updates fairly quickly. This is the March archive: http:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread CeJ
Another social thinker who finds large audiences, some revulsion, but is much-discussed is Zizek. He would appear to have been an undistinguished academic in Yugoslavia, but emerges as an original thinker, an iconoclast to all the establishment icononclasts. He is still yet another European who has

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread Ralph Dumain
This is all sophisticated insipidity. What a poseur! At 08:41 PM 3/14/2008, CeJ wrote: >Another social thinker who finds large audiences, some revulsion, but >is much-discussed is Zizek. He would appear to have been an >undistinguished academic in Yugoslavia, but emerges as an original >thinker,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread CeJ
Well, Zizek does tend to draw such reactions as RD's. I think it is worth reading his articles occasionally. That is the beauty of the internet, I only pay for it with eyestrain and connection times. I think there is the issues of 1. People brought up in the philosophical traditions of anglo-anal

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread CeJ
> 1. People brought up in the philosophical traditions of anglo-analytic > and American pragmatism react strongly against the > Hegel-Idealism-Phenomenology-Existentalism-Poststructuralism lines of > philosophical descent. > The term 'anglo-analytic' was supposed to modify something, but right

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread CeJ
So getting back to what I think is the meat of the discussion with PW and CB, PW wrote: >>Have people on this list got the point about postmodernism not being a policy (which can easily be reversed) but rather being a deeply ingrained condition with many supports in material reality? >> Perhaps

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-14 Thread Ralph Dumain
You're writing gibberish. More below. At 09:40 PM 3/14/2008, CeJ wrote: >Well, Zizek does tend to draw such reactions as RD's. I think it is >worth reading his articles occasionally. That is the beauty of the >internet, I only pay for it with eyestrain and connection times. > >I think there is th

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] overcoming postmodernism

2008-03-16 Thread CeJ
RD: > You're writing gibberish. More below. This is now how serious discussion is done Ralph. If you don't want to try, then just don't write anything. > > Marx is not an objective idealist. Have you got > your finger up your ass? I was talking about young Marx and the tradition he came out