Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/12/2010 10:53:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Is the BP oil catastrophe the beginning of the conflict and then antagonism you refer to ? Reply No. The material quoted states: "At a certain stage in their development me

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread c b
wrote: > > > CB: Is the BP oil catastrophe the beginning of the conflict and > then antagonism you refer to ? > > Reply > > No. > > The material quoted states: > > "At a certain stage in their development means of production - instruments, > machinery and energy sources, come into confl

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; Doesn't Marx consider that capitalism _emerges_ in the manufacturing system ? _http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch14.htm#S5_ (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: CB: Ok Isn't class antagonism you describe a conflict between the old division of labor and the new division of labor with the new division of labor arising based on dev